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Aston Villa

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4-3-1, 11 PTS

Saturday, 17 October 1908

1908-09

4th=

Won

3-1

Manchester United

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6-1-1, 13 PTS

Division One

Villa Park

Attendance: 42,000

🟩 17 Oct 1908, Villa 3-1 United, Villa Park

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Scorer(s) | George Reeves | 8' | 65' | Harry Hampton | 35' |

Assist(s) | Charlie Wallace | 8' | Joe Bache | 35' |

Fixture List

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🟥 1 Sep 1908, Villa 2-3 Liverpool, Anfield

Division One

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🟨 5 Sep 1908, Villa 1-1 Wednesday, Villa Park

Division One

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🟩 12 Sep 1908, Villa 2-1 Forest, City Ground

Division One

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🟩 19 Sep 1908, Villa 2-0 Sunderland, Villa Park

Division One

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🟩 26 Sep 1908, Villa 2-0 Chelsea, Stamford Bridge

Division One

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🟨 3 Oct 1908, Villa 1-1 Blackburn, Villa Park

Division One

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🟨 10 Oct 1908, Villa 1-1 Bradford, Valley Parade

Division One

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🟩 17 Oct 1908, Villa 3-1 United, Villa Park

Division One

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🟥 24 Oct 1908, Villa 1-3 Everton, Goodison

Division One

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🟨 31 Oct 1908, Villa 1-1 Leicester, Villa Park

Division One

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🟩 7 Nov 1908, Villa 1-0 Arsenal, Manor Ground

Division One

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🟨 14 Nov 1908, Villa 1-1 Notts County, Villa Park

Division One

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🟩 21 Nov 1908, Villa 2-0 Newcastle, St James'

Division One

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🟨 28 Nov 1908, Villa 1-1 Bristol City, Villa Park

Division One

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🟥 5 Dec 1908, Villa 2-3 Preston, Deepdale

Division One

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🟥 12 Dec 1908, Villa 0-3 Boro, Villa Park

Division One

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🟥 19 Dec 1908, Villa 0-2 Manchester City, Hyde Road

Division One

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🟨 25 Dec 1908, Villa 1-1 Liverpool, Villa Park

Division One

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🟩 26 Dec 1908, Villa 3-0 Bury, Villa Park

Division One

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🟩 1 Jan 1909, Villa 2-1 Bury, Gigg Lane

Division One

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🟥 2 Jan 1909, Villa 2-4 Wednesday, Owlerton

Division One

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🟥 9 Jan 1909, Villa 1-2 Forest, Villa Park

Division One

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🟥 16 Jan 1909, Villa 0-2 Forest, City Ground

FA Cup

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🟥 23 Jan 1909, Villa 3-4 Sunderland, Roker

Division One

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🟨 30 Jan 1909, Villa 0-0 Chelsea, Villa Park

Division One

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🟥 6 Feb 1909, Villa 1-3 Sheffield United, Bramall Lane

Division One

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🟥 13 Feb 1909, Villa 1-3 Bradford, Valley Parade

Division One

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🟥 15 Feb 1909, Villa 1-3 Blackburn, Ewood

Division One

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🟩 27 Feb 1909, Villa 3-1 Everton, Villa Park

Division One

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🟩 13 Mar 1909, Villa 2-1 Arsenal, Villa Park

Division One

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🟨 20 Mar 1909, Villa 1-1 Notts County, Trent Bridge

Division One

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🟥 27 Mar 1909, Villa 2-4 Leicester, Filbert Street

Division One

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🟩 31 Mar 1909, Villa 2-0 United, Bank Street

Division One

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🟨 3 Apr 1909, Villa 0-0 Bristol City, Ashton Gate

Division One

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🟩 9 Apr 1909, Villa 3-0 Sheffield United, Villa Park

Division One

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🟥 10 Apr 1909, Villa 2-4 Preston, Villa Park

Division One

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🟥 17 Apr 1909, Villa 0-1 Boro, Ayresome

Division One

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🟩 24 Apr 1909, Villa 2-1 Manchester City, Villa Park

Division One

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🟩 26 Apr 1909, Villa 3-0 Newcastle, Villa Park

Division One

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On This Day

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Saturday, 17 October 1908

  • George Reeves scores a brace to help Villa to a fourth win in six games as George Ramsay's men swat aside third placed Manchester United to climb back to joint fourth in the table.

  • Villa extend their unbeaten run to seven matches. 

  • Villa make it four wins, three draws and a defeat in their eight division one games so far this season.

  • Up next are leaders Everton at Goodison.

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Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟨 🟨 🟩

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George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

🕒 717 | 🟩 374 🟨 127 🟥 216 | 1.74

Villa Career Form:

Top 6

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Game #743

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Match Record

Season | 1908-09 |
Matchday | #8 |
League Match | #8 |
Manager Game | #717 |
Saturday, 17 October 1908

Game Record

Manager: George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | Glasgow, 1886-1926 led Management Committee
Referee: Tom Kirkham | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Burslem
HT Score: 🟩 2-0
FT Score: 🟩 3-1
FT Result: 🟩 Won
Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟨 🟨 🟩

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Head to Head

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Previous 5 vs. United: 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥 🟩

Total 🕒 11 | 🟩 6 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 5 | ⚽ 19 | 🥅 18 |
League 🕒 9 | 🟩 6 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 3 | ⚽ 18 | 🥅 11 |
FA Cup 🕒 2 | 🟩 0 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 2 | ⚽ 1 | 🥅 7 |
Home 🕒 6 | 🟩 4 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 2 | ⚽ 13 | 🥅 8 |
Away 🕒 5 | 🟩 2 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 3 | ⚽ 6 | 🥅 10 |

Trophy Cabinet

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Aston Villa

League Champions: 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
Last Trophy: 1904-05

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Manchester United

League Champions: 🏆
FA Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: 1907-08

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Squad News

Debut Appearances

None

Final Appearances

None

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Match Timeline

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⚽ | 8' Goal, 1-0, George Reeves, Assist by Charlie Wallace
⚽ | 35' Goal, 2-0, Harry Hampton, Assist by Joe Bache
🕒 | HT Aston Villa 2-0 Manchester United
⚽ | 65' Goal, 3-0, George Reeves
🥅 | 85' Goal, 3-1, (Manchester United), Jimmy Bannister
🕒 | FT Aston Villa 3-1 Manchester United

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Officials

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Referee: Tom Kirkham | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Burslem, 1901-
Linesmen: J. T. Hornby; A. W. Dunton

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Officials

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Referee Profile

VAR Profile (Post 2021)

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Officials

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Villa Bookings

None

Villa Sendings Off

None

Opposition Bookings

None

Opposition Sendings Off

None

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Match Stats

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Not recorded

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Line Up & Subs

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Aston Villa
George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

GK Billy George | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Chris Buckley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
FB Tom Lyons | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
FB Freddie Miles | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Jock Logan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
M George Tranter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Albert Hall | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Charlie Wallace | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔥 |
F George Reeves | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ | ⚽ |
CF Joe Bache | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔥 |
CF Harry Hampton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |

Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Unused Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Manchester United
Ernest Mangall | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

GK George Moger | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
D George Stacey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
D Aaron Hume | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Alex Bell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
M Charlie Roberts | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Dick Duckworth | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M George Wall | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Alexander Turnbull | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
F Harold Halse (ft) | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Jimmy Bannister | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |
F Billy Meredith | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 |

Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Unused Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Team News

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Injury | 3 |
M George Hunter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Rowland Codling | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Joe Walters | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Albert Hall and Charlie Wallace replace Joseph Wilcox and Sammy Whittaker.

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Manchester United

Not Recorded

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Matchday Squads

Aston Villa

Goalkeepers
GK Billy George | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Defenders
CB Chris Buckley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Full Backs
FB Tom Lyons | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
FB Freddie Miles | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Jock Logan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |

Midfielders
M George Tranter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Wingers
W Albert Hall | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Charlie Wallace | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Forwards
F George Reeves | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Joe Bache | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Harry Hampton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Manchester United

Goalkeepers
GK George Moger | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Defenders
D George Stacey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
D Aaron Hume | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Midfielders
M Alex Bell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
M Charlie Roberts | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Dick Duckworth | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M George Wall | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Forwards
F Alexander Turnbull | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
F Harold Halse (ft) | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Jimmy Bannister | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Billy Meredith | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 |

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Match Media

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What they Said

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Match Highlights

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Team Selection

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Goalkeeper

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1908-09

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First Team Squad

GK Arthur Cartlidge | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #214 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

GK Len Skiller | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #212 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

FB Freddie Miles | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #170 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

RB Jock McKenzie | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #207 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

M Frank Cornan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #209 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M George Tranter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #195 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

W Albert Hall | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #169 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

W Joseph Wilcox | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #199 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

F George Reeves | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #200 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

CF Joe Bache | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #144 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F Sammy Whittaker | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #205 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

GK Bert Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #198 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

CB Chris Buckley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #191 |

Centre Back

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Where are they now?

FB Jack Kearns | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #213 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

FB Tom Lyons | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #201 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

M George Harris | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #155 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M Jack Windmill | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #168 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

W Charlie Wallace | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #196 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

CF Alec Logan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #194 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F George Travers | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #211 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F Joe Walters | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #183 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

GK Billy George | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #122 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

RB Arthur Layton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #210 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

LB Jock Logan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #182 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

LB Walter Kimberley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #202 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

M George Hunter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #204 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M Rowland Codling | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #189 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

W Edmund Eyre | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #208 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

F Alfred Gittins | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #206 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

CF Harry Hampton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #175 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

CF Peter Kyle | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #203 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

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Matchday Programme

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League Table

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The Trophy Cabinet

Domestic:

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League Champions: 1893-94, 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-00, 1909-10, 1980-81

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FA Cup Winners: 1886-87, 1894-95, 1896-97, 1904-05, 1912-13, 1919-20, 1956-57

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League Cup Winners: 1960-61, 1974-75, 1976-77, 1993-94, 1995-96


Europe:
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European Cup Winners: 1981-82
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European Super Cup Winners: 1982-83


Other Domestic:

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Second Division Champions: 1937-38, 1959-60

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Other Europe:

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Intertoto Cup Winners: 2001-02

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Peace Cup Winners: 2009

Reserve League
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Premier Reserve League Champions: 2003-04, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2009-10, 2011-12

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Reserve Cup
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Birmingham Senior Cup Winners: 1879-80, 1881-82, 1882-83, 1883-84, 1884-85, 1887-88, 1888-90, 1889-90, 1890-91, 1895-96, 1898-99, 1902-03, 1903-04, 1905-06, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1909-10, 1911-12, 1984-85, 2023-24 

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NextGen Series Winners: 2012-13

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Premier League Cup Winners: 2017-18

Youth League:
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u18s Premier League Champions: 2024-25
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u18s Premier League National Champions: 2024-25
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u18 Premier League Tier Two Champions 2016-17
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u18 Premier Academy League Academy Group B Champions: 2005-06, 2007-08, 2010-11
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u18 Premier Academy League National Champions 2007-08
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u17 FA Premier Academy League Champions: 1999-00, 2003-04
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Midland Youth League Champions: 1989-90, 1994-95, 1995-96

Youth Cup:
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FA Youth Cup Winners: 1971-72, 1979-80, 2001-02, 2020-21, 2024-25
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Midland Youth League Cup Winners: 1991-92, 1994-95
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Midland Youth Cup Winners: 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98
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Southern Junior Floodlit Cup: 1972-73, 1974-75, 1975-76, 1978-79, 1979-80, 1980-81, 1993-94

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