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Game #3921

Aston Villa

Saturday, 13 September 1986

Lost

21st (-1)

Last 5: 🟥 🟥 🟩 🟥 🟥

Division One

Attendance: 17,045

Nottingham Forest

City Ground

Nottingham Forest

6-0

Aston Villa

Assist(s) | None

MATCH SUMMARY

Villa ship six in a City Ground horror show to make it five defeats in six, conceding fourteen, prompting Graham Turner's long overdue dismissal. Yet the implicated Chairman survives.

KEY MAN

Graham Turner, sacked after conceding fourteen in six games with five defeats, Saturday, 13 September 1986.

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MATCH TIMELINE

Saturday, 13 September 1986

🥅 | 8’ Goal, 0-1, (Nottingham Forest), Franz Carr
🥅 | 22’ Goal, 0-2, (Nottingham Forest), Gary Birtles
🕒 | HT Nottingham Forest 2-0 Aston Villa
🥅 | 46’ Goal, 0-3, (Nottingham Forest), Nigel Clough
🥅 | 54’ Goal, 0-4, (Nottingham Forest), Neil Webb
🥅 | 64’ Goal, 0-5, (Nottingham Forest), Gary Birtles
🥅 | 88’ Goal, 0-6, (Nottingham Forest), Neil Webb
🕒 | FT Nottingham Forest 6-0 Aston Villa

🟨 | Booking, Paul Elliott, Foul

ON THIS DAY

Graham Turner's Villa had now won just seven of their last thirty three league games, losing seventeen including this 6-0 embarrassment.

This was to prove Turner’s last game in charge of Villa as the senseless strategy of Herbert Doug Ellis, to prematurely and wilfully dismantle the league title and European Cup winning team, paid its inevitable dividends.

Aston Villa

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1981-82

Nottingham Forest

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆🏆
League Champions: 🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1979-80

FIXTURE HISTORY

Nottingham Forest

Previous 5 vs. Forest: 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥 🟨

FIXTURE DETAILS

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Season | 1986-87 |
Matchday | #6 |
League Match | #6 |
Manager Game | #107 |
Saturday, 13 September 1986

MATCH SUMMARY

Manager: Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: George Courtney | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Spennymoor, 1974-1992
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: 🟥 0-2
FT Result: 🟥 Lost
FT Score: 🟥 0-6
Last 5: 🟥 🟥 🟩 🟥 🟥

MANAGERIAL RECORD

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

GAMES | WINS | DRAWS | LOSSES | POINTS PER GAME

🕒 107 | 🟩 | 34 🟨 | 30 🟥 43 | 1.23

Villa Career Form:

Mid Table

ALL THE MATCHES LED BY:

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: George Courtney | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Spennymoor, 1974-1992
Previous 5: 🟥 🟥 🟥
Last Match: 🟥 19 April 1986, Villa 0-2 Wednesday, Hillsborough.
Cards: 🟨

ALL THE MATCHES REFEREED BY:

CARDS

Villa

🟨

Nottingham Forest

None

TEAM NEWS

Paul Birch and David Norton replace Paul Kerr and Steve Hodge.

TEAM STATS

Starting XI Average Age
| 24.13 |

Oldest Player |
W Steve Hunt | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 30.13 |

Youngest Player |
W Tony Daley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 18.92 |

MANAGER

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

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Aston Villa

GK Kevin Poole | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Allan Evans | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
CB Martin Keown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Paul Elliott | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M David Norton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Paul Birch | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Tony Daley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Steve Hunt | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Simon Stainrod | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Garry Thompson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

MANAGER

Brian Clough | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

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Nottingham Forest

GK Steve Sutton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Stuart Pearce | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Des Walker | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB Gary Fleming | 🇬🇧 |
M Johnny Metgod | 🇳🇱 |
M Ian Bowyer | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔁 |
M Nigel Clough | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |
M Dave Campbell | 🇬🇧 |
M Neil Webb | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ | ⚽ |
W Franz Carr | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |
CF Gary Birtles | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ | ⚽ |

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Not necessarily indicative of the actual matchday formation

SUBSTITUTES

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No Substitutions Made

SUBSTITUTES

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🔁 | M Ian Bowyer | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | (M Gary Mills | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |)

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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M Paul Kerr | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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None

SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 12/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 10/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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UNAVAILABLE

Not recorded

UNAVAILABLE

Not Recorded

Player Positions:

GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half


M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

Match Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

DEBUT APPEARANCES

FINAL APPEARANCES

MATCH STATS

Not recorded

LEAGUE TABLE

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MATCHDAY PROGRAMME

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MATCHDAY QUOTES

"If you cannot defend from goal-kicks, throw-Ins and free-kicks, then you have no chance, no defence.

"When I joined the club just over two years ago I knew that I had to aim for the top average would not be good enough.

"After spending the first year assessing the existing staff, I began a series of signings all of which I am certain will prove excellent investments for the future.

"Youngsters like Paul Elliott, Tony Dorigo and Steve Hodge would be first choice players for any team in the land.

"Time is always a football manager's worst enemy and, after the pre-season confidence we all felt at Villa Park, I would never have anticipated being in this situation by mid-September.

"I never shield behind excuses and would not give as a reason the huge injury list, which has prevented me fielding my ideal first team once this season.

“My successor will have an enviable job - a tremendous stadium with administration facilities to match, a progressive board with an excellent, supportive chairman, and a superb bunch of fans, particularly those who have travelled to away matches."

Graham Turner.


“There is no way I want to be the manager. When a new manager does come in, if he wants me to work with him, we will look at it from there.

"But I would not want to be in charge, even if it means that a new manager doesn't want to keep me on his coaching staff.

As far as l am concerned everything must be done only for the good of Aston Villa Football Club.

Ron Wylie.


“This decision has been extremely difficult for the board and me in particular, because of his qualities as a man.

"I have never worked with anyone with such honesty and Integrity and I would not hesitate to recommend him to another club.

"He is a man most worthy of success, and, although he has been denied it at Aston Villa due to some extent to sheer bad luck we are confident that he will find that success at another club.

"We wish Graham all the luck he surely deserves.”

Herbert Ellis.

*Birmingham Evening Mail*
Monday, 15 September 1986.

Image © THE BRITISH LIBRARY BOARD. With thanks to Reach PLC. Digitised by Findmypast Newspaper Archive Limited. All rights reserved. Source: British Newspaper Archive (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk)

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