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Game #3921

Saturday, 13 September 1986

Attendance: 17,045

Lost

Division One

21st (-1)

Nottingham Forest

Last 5: ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ

City Ground

Villa ship six in a City Ground horror show to make it five defeats in six, conceding fourteen, prompting Graham Turner's long overdue dismissal. Yet the implicated Chairman survives.

Nottingham Forest

6-0

Aston Villa

Assist(s) | None

KEY MAN

Graham Turner, sacked after conceding fourteen in six games with five defeats, Saturday, 13 September 1986.

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MATCH TIMELINE

๐Ÿฅ… | 8โ€™ Goal, 0-1, (Nottingham Forest), Franz Carr
๐Ÿฅ… | 22โ€™ Goal, 0-2, (Nottingham Forest), Gary Birtles
๐Ÿ•’ | HT Nottingham Forest 2-0 Aston Villa
๐Ÿฅ… | 46โ€™ Goal, 0-3, (Nottingham Forest), Nigel Clough
๐Ÿฅ… | 54โ€™ Goal, 0-4, (Nottingham Forest), Neil Webb
๐Ÿฅ… | 64โ€™ Goal, 0-5, (Nottingham Forest), Gary Birtles
๐Ÿฅ… | 88โ€™ Goal, 0-6, (Nottingham Forest), Neil Webb
๐Ÿ•’ | FT Nottingham Forest 6-0 Aston Villa

๐ŸŸจ | Booking, Paul Elliott, Foul

ON THIS DAY

Graham Turner's Villa had now won just seven of their last thirty three league games, losing seventeen including this 6-0 embarrassment.

This was to prove Turnerโ€™s last game in charge of Villa as the senseless strategy of Herbert Doug Ellis, to prematurely and wilfully dismantle the league title and European Cup winning team, paid its inevitable dividends.

Aston Villa

European Cup / Champions League: ๐Ÿ†
League Champions: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
FA Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
League Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
Last Trophy: 1981-82

Nottingham Forest

European Cup / Champions League: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
League Champions: ๐Ÿ†
FA Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
League Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
Last Trophy: 1979-80

FIXTURE HISTORY

Nottingham Forest

Previous 5 vs. Forest: ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸจ

FIXTURE DETAILS

Season | 1986-87 |
Matchday | #6 |
League Match | #6 |
Manager Game | #107 |
Saturday, 13 September 1986

MATCH SUMMARY

Manager: Graham Turner | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: George Courtney | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Spennymoor, 1974-1992
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: ๐ŸŸฅ 0-2
FT Result: ๐ŸŸฅ Lost
FT Score: ๐ŸŸฅ 0-6
Last 5: ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: George Courtney | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Spennymoor, 1974-1992
Previous 5: ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ
Last Match: ๐ŸŸฅ 19 April 1986, Villa 0-2 Wednesday, Hillsborough.
Cards: ๐ŸŸจ

CARDS

Villa

๐ŸŸจ

Nottingham Forest

None

George Courtney

TEAM NEWS

Paul Birch and David Norton replace Paul Kerr and Steve Hodge.

TEAM STATS

Starting XI Average Age
| 24.13 |

Oldest Player |
W Steve Hunt | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 30.13 |

Youngest Player |
W Tony Daley | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 18.92 |

MANAGER

MANAGER

Graham Turner | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Brian Clough | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Aston Villa

GK Kevin Poole | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Allan Evans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
CB Martin Keown | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Paul Elliott | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Tony Dorigo | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M David Norton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Paul Birch | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Tony Daley | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Steve Hunt | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Simon Stainrod | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Garry Thompson | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Nottingham Forest

GK Steve Sutton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Stuart Pearce | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Des Walker | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB Gary Fleming | ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง |
M Johnny Metgod | ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ |
M Ian Bowyer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐Ÿ” |
M Nigel Clough | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โšฝ |
M Dave Campbell | ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง |
M Neil Webb | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โšฝ | โšฝ |
W Franz Carr | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โšฝ |
CF Gary Birtles | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โšฝ | โšฝ |

SUBSTITUTES

No Substitutions Made

SUBSTITUTES

๐Ÿ” | M Ian Bowyer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | (M Gary Mills | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |)

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

M Paul Kerr | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

None

SQUAD STATS

1st XI:
Home Nation ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง : 11/11

Squad:
Home Nation ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง : 12/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

SQUAD STATS

1st XI:
Home Nation ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง : 10/11

Squad:
Home Nation ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง : 11/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

UNAVAILABLE

Not recorded

UNAVAILABLE

Not Recorded

Player Abbreviations:

GK : Goalkeeper

LB, RB, FB : Left Back, Right Back, Full Back

CB, D : Centre Back, Defender

M, W : Midfielder. Winger

F, CF : Forward, Centre Forward

๐ŸŸข : Debut ๐Ÿ”ด : Final Game

Symbols:

โšฝ | Goal
๐Ÿ”ฅ | Assist
๐Ÿ” | Substitution

๐ŸŸจ | Booking

๐ŸŸฅ | Sending off

๐Ÿ†˜ | Poor refereeing performance

DEBUT APPEARANCES

FINAL APPEARANCES

MATCH STATS

Not recorded

TABLE

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PROGRAMME

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MATCHDAY QUOTES

"If you cannot defend from goal-kicks, throw-Ins and free-kicks, then you have no chance, no defence.

"When I joined the club just over two years ago I knew that I had to aim for the top average would not be good enough.

"After spending the first year assessing the existing staff, I began a series of signings all of which I am certain will prove excellent investments for the future.

"Youngsters like Paul Elliott, Tony Dorigo and Steve Hodge would be first choice players for any team in the land.

"Time is always a football manager's worst enemy and, after the pre-season confidence we all felt at Villa Park, I would never have anticipated being in this situation by mid-September.

"I never shield behind excuses and would not give as a reason the huge injury list, which has prevented me fielding my ideal first team once this season.

โ€œMy successor will have an enviable job - a tremendous stadium with administration facilities to match, a progressive board with an excellent, supportive chairman, and a superb bunch of fans, particularly those who have travelled to away matches."

Graham Turner.


โ€œThere is no way I want to be the manager. When a new manager does come in, if he wants me to work with him, we will look at it from there.

"But I would not want to be in charge, even if it means that a new manager doesn't want to keep me on his coaching staff.

As far as l am concerned everything must be done only for the good of Aston Villa Football Club.

Ron Wylie.


โ€œThis decision has been extremely difficult for the board and me in particular, because of his qualities as a man.

"I have never worked with anyone with such honesty and Integrity and I would not hesitate to recommend him to another club.

"He is a man most worthy of success, and, although he has been denied it at Aston Villa due to some extent to sheer bad luck we are confident that he will find that success at another club.

"We wish Graham all the luck he surely deserves.โ€

Herbert Ellis.

*Birmingham Evening Mail*
Monday, 15 September 1986.