Game #3921
Aston Villa
Saturday, 13 September 1986
Lost
21st (-1)
Last 5: 🟥 🟥 🟩 🟥 🟥
Division One
Attendance: 17,045
Nottingham Forest
City Ground
Nottingham Forest
6-0
Aston Villa
Assist(s) | None
MATCH SUMMARY
Villa ship six in a City Ground horror show to make it five defeats in six, conceding fourteen, prompting Graham Turner's long overdue dismissal. Yet the implicated Chairman survives.
KEY MAN
Graham Turner, sacked after conceding fourteen in six games with five defeats, Saturday, 13 September 1986.
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MATCH TIMELINE
Saturday, 13 September 1986
🥅 | 8’ Goal, 0-1, (Nottingham Forest), Franz Carr
🥅 | 22’ Goal, 0-2, (Nottingham Forest), Gary Birtles
🕒 | HT Nottingham Forest 2-0 Aston Villa
🥅 | 46’ Goal, 0-3, (Nottingham Forest), Nigel Clough
🥅 | 54’ Goal, 0-4, (Nottingham Forest), Neil Webb
🥅 | 64’ Goal, 0-5, (Nottingham Forest), Gary Birtles
🥅 | 88’ Goal, 0-6, (Nottingham Forest), Neil Webb
🕒 | FT Nottingham Forest 6-0 Aston Villa
🟨 | Booking, Paul Elliott, Foul
ON THIS DAY
Graham Turner's Villa had now won just seven of their last thirty three league games, losing seventeen including this 6-0 embarrassment.
This was to prove Turner’s last game in charge of Villa as the senseless strategy of Herbert Doug Ellis, to prematurely and wilfully dismantle the league title and European Cup winning team, paid its inevitable dividends.
Aston Villa
European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1981-82
Nottingham Forest
European Cup / Champions League: 🏆🏆
League Champions: 🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1979-80
FIXTURE HISTORY
Nottingham Forest
Previous 5 vs. Forest: 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥 🟨
FIXTURE DETAILS
Season | 1986-87 |
Matchday | #6 |
League Match | #6 |
Manager Game | #107 |
Saturday, 13 September 1986
MATCH SUMMARY
Manager: Graham Turner | 🏴 | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: George Courtney | 🏴 | Spennymoor, 1974-1992
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: 🟥 0-2
FT Result: 🟥 Lost
FT Score: 🟥 0-6
Last 5: 🟥 🟥 🟩 🟥 🟥
MANAGERIAL RECORD
Graham Turner | 🏴 |
GAMES | WINS | DRAWS | LOSSES | POINTS PER GAME
🕒 107 | 🟩 | 34 🟨 | 30 🟥 43 | 1.23
Villa Career Form:
Mid Table
ALL THE MATCHES LED BY:
MATCH OFFICIALS
Referee: George Courtney | 🏴 | Spennymoor, 1974-1992
Previous 5: 🟥 🟥 🟥
Last Match: 🟥 19 April 1986, Villa 0-2 Wednesday, Hillsborough.
Cards: 🟨
ALL THE MATCHES REFEREED BY:
CARDS
Villa
🟨
Nottingham Forest
None
TEAM NEWS
Paul Birch and David Norton replace Paul Kerr and Steve Hodge.
TEAM STATS
Starting XI Average Age
| 24.13 |
Oldest Player |
W Steve Hunt | 🏴 | 30.13 |
Youngest Player |
W Tony Daley | 🏴 | 18.92 |
MANAGER
Graham Turner | 🏴 |
Aston Villa
GK Kevin Poole | 🏴 |
CB Allan Evans | 🏴 |
CB Martin Keown | 🏴 |
CB Paul Elliott | 🏴 |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴 |
M David Norton | 🏴 |
M Paul Birch | 🏴 |
W Tony Daley | 🏴 |
W Steve Hunt | 🏴 |
CF Simon Stainrod | 🏴 |
CF Garry Thompson | 🏴 |
MANAGER
Brian Clough | 🏴 |
Nottingham Forest
GK Steve Sutton | 🏴 |
LB Stuart Pearce | 🏴 |
CB Des Walker | 🏴 |
RB Gary Fleming | 🇬🇧 |
M Johnny Metgod | 🇳🇱 |
M Ian Bowyer | 🏴 | 🔁 |
M Nigel Clough | 🏴 | ⚽ |
M Dave Campbell | 🇬🇧 |
M Neil Webb | 🏴 | ⚽ | ⚽ |
W Franz Carr | 🏴 | ⚽ |
CF Gary Birtles | 🏴 | ⚽ | ⚽ |
Not necessarily indicative of the actual matchday formation
SUBSTITUTES
No Substitutions Made
SUBSTITUTES
🔁 | M Ian Bowyer | 🏴 | (M Gary Mills | 🏴 |)
UNUSED SUBSTITUTES
M Paul Kerr | 🏴 |
UNUSED SUBSTITUTES
None
SQUAD STATS
1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 11/11
Squad:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 12/12
MATCHDAY SQUAD
SQUAD STATS
1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 10/11
Squad:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 11/12
MATCHDAY SQUAD
UNAVAILABLE
Not recorded
UNAVAILABLE
Not Recorded
Player Positions:
GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half
M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward
Match Symbols:
⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution
🟨 | Booking
🟥 | Sending off
🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game
DEBUT APPEARANCES
FINAL APPEARANCES
MATCH STATS
Not recorded
LEAGUE TABLE
MATCHDAY PROGRAMME
MATCHDAY QUOTES
"If you cannot defend from goal-kicks, throw-Ins and free-kicks, then you have no chance, no defence.
"When I joined the club just over two years ago I knew that I had to aim for the top average would not be good enough.
"After spending the first year assessing the existing staff, I began a series of signings all of which I am certain will prove excellent investments for the future.
"Youngsters like Paul Elliott, Tony Dorigo and Steve Hodge would be first choice players for any team in the land.
"Time is always a football manager's worst enemy and, after the pre-season confidence we all felt at Villa Park, I would never have anticipated being in this situation by mid-September.
"I never shield behind excuses and would not give as a reason the huge injury list, which has prevented me fielding my ideal first team once this season.
“My successor will have an enviable job - a tremendous stadium with administration facilities to match, a progressive board with an excellent, supportive chairman, and a superb bunch of fans, particularly those who have travelled to away matches."
Graham Turner.
“There is no way I want to be the manager. When a new manager does come in, if he wants me to work with him, we will look at it from there.
"But I would not want to be in charge, even if it means that a new manager doesn't want to keep me on his coaching staff.
As far as l am concerned everything must be done only for the good of Aston Villa Football Club.
Ron Wylie.
“This decision has been extremely difficult for the board and me in particular, because of his qualities as a man.
"I have never worked with anyone with such honesty and Integrity and I would not hesitate to recommend him to another club.
"He is a man most worthy of success, and, although he has been denied it at Aston Villa due to some extent to sheer bad luck we are confident that he will find that success at another club.
"We wish Graham all the luck he surely deserves.”
Herbert Ellis.
*Birmingham Evening Mail*
Monday, 15 September 1986.
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