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Game #28

Aston Villa

Saturday, 20 November 1886


2nd Round


FA Cup 2nd Round

Attendance: 5,000

Derby Midland

Wellington Road, Perry Barr

Villa make it 19 goals in two games as they cruise to the third round of the FA Cup as Dennis Hodgetts hits five goals in two games.

Aston Villa


Derby Midland

Assist(s) | Richmond Davis | Fred Dawson | Arthur Loach |


Five goals in two games from Dennis Hodgetts helps Villa to 19 goals and a place in round three, Saturday, 20 November 1886




Saturday, 20 November 1886

2’ Goal, 1-0, Dennis Hodgetts
7’ Goal, 2-0, Dennis Hodgetts
Goal, 3-0, Arthur Loach, Assist by Richmond Davis
Goal, 3-1, (Derby Midland), Jimmy Warner o.g.
HT Aston Villa 3-1 Derby Midland
Goal, 4-1, Albert Brown, Assist by Fred Dawson
Goal, 5-1, Albert Brown, Assist by Arthur Loach
80’ Goal, 6-1, Archie Hunter
FT Aston Villa 6-1 Derby Midland


Secretary Manager George Ramsay's Villa follow up the biggest win with another convincing victory to reach the third round of the FA Cup having scored 19 goals in two games as they banished the memories of their early exit in the previous two seasons of the FA Cup.

Aston Villa

Derby Midland


Derby Midland

Previous 5 vs. Derby Midland: None


Season | 1886-87 |
Matchday | #2 |
Manager Game | #2 |
Saturday, 20 November 1886


Manager | George Ramsay led Management Committee |
FT Score | 6-1 |
FT Result | Won |
Last 5 Games | LWLWW |




Derby Midland

All the matches refereed by:


Villa make one change from the team that beat Old Athletic 13-0 in the last match with Fred Dawson coming in for Dick Robertson.


[Exact birth dates not recorded]

Starting XI Average Age
| 24.21 |

Oldest Player |
WH Fred Dawson | 27.99 |

Youngest Player |
D Frank Coulton | 18.81 |

George Ramsay led Management Committee



George Ramsay led Management Committee

Aston Villa

GK Jimmy Warner |
D Frank Coulton |
D Joe Simmonds |
M Harry Yates |
M Fred Dawson |
M Jack Burton |
F Albert Brown |
F Richmond Davis |
F Archie Hunter |
F Arthur Loach |
F Dennis Hodgetts |

Derby Midland

Salt, Wright, Wildsmith, Ratcliff, Flowers, Hickinbotham, Wood, Shannon, Walker, Strutt, Ward.


No Substitutions permitted in period



No Substitutions permitted in period







Not recorded


Player Positions:

GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half

M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

Match Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game




Not recorded


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"From first to last the game was in favour of the home team."

*The Birmingham Daily Post*
Monday, 22 November 1886


The Football Association Committee having fixed Saturday as the latest date for the decision of cup ties in the second round, a large number of matches were brought off to various parts of the country. Probably most interest attached to the meeting between the Blackburn Rovers and Renton at Glasgow, where, although an extra half-hour was played, the match could not be brought to a definite issue.

West Bromwich Albion did not play too well, but managed to score a victory; while Notts County beat the club who drew with them, a week ago by 5 goals to 0. Of other great teams Aston Villa, the Swifts, and the Old Westminsters earned their right to compete is the third round.

The chief surprise consisted in the defeat of Derby County by Mitchell St. George’s.

DERBY MIDLAND v ASTON VILLA. - These teams met at Perry Barr. The afternoon was dull, but about 4,000 persons assembled. Both teams were well represented.

From first to last the game was in favour of the home team, who were victorious by 6 goals to 1.

For the winning team Archie Hunter, Loach, Hodgetts, Brown end Yates showed the best form, whilst for the visitors their goalkeeper, Salt, and their backs played splendidly.

Winning the toss, Archie Hunter decided to kick down hill, towards the Wellington Road goal.

Walker kicked off for the visitors, and after a bit of midfield play the Villa rushed to the attack, and a corner fell to their lot. The kick was well taken, and from a scrimmage which ensued the ball was sent between the visitors’ posts about two minutes from the start.

On the ball being restarted the Villa again attacked, and after several unsuccessful attempts D. Hodgetts scored again, about seven minutes after the ball had been kicked off.

The Derby men then plucked up a bit, and transferred the play into the vicinity of the Villa’s goal; but Coulton and Simmonds were equal to the occasion, and removed the danger. A pass by Burton to Albert Brown gave the latter a chance to score, and he put in a good shot, but the goalkeeper punched out the ball.

Continuing the pressure several more shots were put into goal by the Villa forwards, but they were all kept out by the fine play of the Derby custodian.

At length, however, Rich Davis centred across the goal, and Loach knocked the ball through with his head.

Stung by these reverses, the visitors’ forwards played up with some spirit, and after a time Ward got within shooting distance of the Villa goal and sent the ball well in.

Warner, in running across the goal, fell down, and the ball passed between the Villa posts.

Up to half time the game was all in favour of the Villa, who set the Derby goal in a state of siege. No further points were, however, obtained, and when half-time intervened the game stood - Villa 3, Derby Midland 1.

On recommencing play, after the change of ends, Loach got to work on the Villa left, and put in a good shot; but Salt, amidst cries of “well saved” kept the ball from going through goal.

Not to be denied, the Villa returned to the assault, and Dawson, pulling the ball to Brown, gave the latter a chance which he speedily availed himself of, and lowered the colours of the Derby men for the fourth time.

The removal of the ball to the centre of the field scarcely afforded the visitors’ backs and goal-keeper breathing time, for a moment after the kick-off the Villa forwards were again “shotting in” and a corner fell to them, which proved abortive.

The next noticeable feature of the game was a fine run and shot by R. Davis, who was heartily applauded, as was also the goal-keeper for stopping the shot.

The visitors’ forwards then broke away, and passing Simmonds and Coulton, the Villa backs, seemed to have the goal at their mercy, but Warner running out in the nick of time sent the ball spinning up the field, where Loach and Hodgetts obtained it and took it into the rear quarters of the visitors. Hodgetts sent in a shot which was punched out, but Loach got possession of the leather, and put it to Albert Brown, who scored the fifth goal for the home team. An appeal for offside was made but was disallowed.

About ten minutes from the call of time Archie Hunter scored a sixth goal and the Villa thus won a one-sided game by 6 goals to 1.

Derby Midland : Salt, goal: Wright and Wildsmith, backs ; Ratcliff, Flowers, and Hickinbotham, half-backs : Wood and Shannon (left), Walker (centre), Strutt and Ward (right), forwards.

Aston Villa : Warner, goal ; Simmonds and Coulton, backs ; Burton, Dawson, and Yates, halfbacks ; Hodgetts snd Leach (left), Hunter (centre). Davis and Albert Brown (right), forwards.