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Game #28

Aston Villa

Saturday, 20 November 1886

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Won

2nd Round

Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟩 🟩

FA Cup

Derby Midland

Wellington Road, Perry Barr

Attendance: 5,000

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

Aston Villa

6-1

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Derby Midland

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🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

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MATCH TIMELINE

Saturday, 20 November 1886

⚽ | 2’ Goal, 1-0, Own Goal
⚽ | 7’ Goal, 2-0, Dennis Hodgetts
⚽ | 30' Goal, 3-0, Arthur Loach, Assist by Richmond Davis
🥅 | Goal, 3-1, (Derby Midland), C. Ward
🕒 | HT Aston Villa 3-1 Derby Midland
⚽ | Goal, 4-1, Albert Brown, Assist by Fred Dawson
⚽ | Goal, 5-1, Albert Brown, Assist by Arthur Loach
⚽ | 80’ Goal, 6-1, Archie Hunter
🕒 | FT Aston Villa 6-1 Derby Midland

Match Statistics

Not recorded

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

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ON THIS DAY

Saturday, 20 November 1886

  • Villa face Derby Midland for the first time in competitive football, Derby Midland become the 13th team that the Villa first team has played in League or Cup football.

  • Secretary Manager George Ramsay's Villa follow up the biggest win with another convincing victory to reach the third round of the FA Cup having scored 19 goals in two games as they banished the memories of their early exit in the previous two seasons of the FA Cup.

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

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DEBUT APPEARANCES

FINAL APPEARANCES

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Aston Villa

FA Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: ❌

Derby Midland

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FA Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: ❌

Aston Villa

Derby Midland

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FIXTURE HISTORY

Villa v

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Derby Midland

Previous 5 vs. Derby Midland: None

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PREVIOUS MATCH

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Derby Midland

SUBSEQUENT MATCH

None

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

FIXTURE DETAILS

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Season | 1886-87 |
Matchday | #2 |
Manager Game | #2 |
Saturday, 20 November 1886

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🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

MATCH SUMMARY

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Manager: George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | Glasgow, 1886-1926 led Management Committee
Referee: Unknown
HT Score: 🟩 3-1
FT Result: 🟩 Won
FT Score: 🟩 6-1
Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟩 🟩

Scorers

MANAGERIAL RECORD

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George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1899

GAMES | WINS | DRAWS | LOSSES | POINTS PER GAME

🕒 2 | 🟩 | 2 🟨 0 🟥 0 | 3.00

Villa Career Form:

Champions

ALL THE MATCHES LED BY:

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George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1899

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

MATCH OFFICIALS

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Referee: Unknown
Cards: None

ALL THE MATCHES REFEREED BY:

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CARDS

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None

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None

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

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TEAM NEWS

TEAM STATS

Villa make one change from the team that beat Old Athletic 13-0 in the last match with Fred Dawson coming in for Dick Robertson.

Starting XI Average Age
| 24.21 |

Oldest Player |
HB Fred Dawson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 27.99 |

Youngest Player |
B Frank Coulton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 18.81 |

Referee
Timeline
On This Day
Trophies
Matches
Fixture
Manager

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

MANAGER

George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1899

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Aston Villa

GK Jimmy Warner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
B Frank Coulton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
B Joe Simmonds | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
HB Harry Yates | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
HB Fred Dawson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔥 |
HB Jack Burton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
IR Albert Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ | ⚽ |
F Richmond Davis | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔥 |
F Arthur Loach | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ | 🔥 |
IL Dennis Hodgetts | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |
CF Archie Hunter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | ⚽ |

MANAGER

Management Committee

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Derby Midland

GK G. Salt
B L.G. Wright
B J. Wildsmith
HB H. Ratcliff
HB J. Flowers,
HB Hickinbottom
LF J. Wood
LF L. Shannon
RF Strutt
RF C. Ward | ⚽ |
CF J. Walker

Line Ups

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

SUBSTITUTES

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No Substitutions permitted in period

SUBSTITUTES

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No Substitutions Permitted in Period

Substitutes

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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No Substitutions permitted in period

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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No Substitutions Permitted in Period

Player Positions:

GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half


M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

Match Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

Squad Bios

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

SQUAD STATS

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Villa XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/11

SQUAD STATS

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Derby XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/11

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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MATCHDAY SQUAD

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🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

UNAVAILABLE

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Not recorded

UNAVAILABLE

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Not Recorded

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LEAGUE TABLE

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MATCHDAY PROGRAMME

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With thanks to

Ignition Sports Media https://www.ignitionsportsmedia.com/collections/aston-villa

Darren Hunt for the kind permission to use his collection of historic Villa programme covers. https://www.flickr.com/photos/astonvillaprogrammes/

Tables & Programmes

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

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MATCH QUOTES

"From first to last the game was in favour of the home team."
Quotes

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

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MATCH REPORTS

Image © THE BRITISH LIBRARY BOARD. With thanks to Reach PLC. Digitised by Findmypast Newspaper Archive Limited. All rights reserved. Source: British Newspaper Archive (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk)

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*The Birmingham Daily Post*
Monday, 22 November 1886

SATURDAY’S FOOTBALL. THE ASSOCIATION CHALLENGE CUP. SECOND ROUND. The Football Association Committee having fixed Saturday as the latest date for the decision of cup ties in the second round, a large number of matches were brought off to various parts of the country. Probably most interest attached to the meeting between the Blackburn Rovers and Renton at Glasgow, where, although an extra half-hour was played, the match could not be brought to a definite issue. West Bromwich Albion did not play too well, but managed to score a victory; while Notts County beat the club who drew with them, a week ago by 5 goals to 0. Of other great teams Aston Villa, the Swifts, and the Old Westminsters earned their right to compete is the third round. The chief surprise consisted in the defeat of Derby County by Mitchell St. George’s. DERBY MIDLAND v ASTON VILLA. - These teams met at Perry Barr. The afternoon was dull, but about 4,000 persons assembled. Both teams were well represented. From first to last the game was in favour of the home team, who were victorious by 6 goals to 1. For the winning team Archie Hunter, Loach, Hodgetts, Brown end Yates showed the best form, whilst for the visitors their goalkeeper, Salt, and their backs played splendidly. Winning the toss, Archie Hunter decided to kick down hill, towards the Wellington Road goal. Walker kicked off for the visitors, and after a bit of midfield play the Villa rushed to the attack, and a corner fell to their lot. The kick was well taken, and from a scrimmage which ensued the ball was sent between the visitors’ posts about two minutes from the start. On the ball being restarted the Villa again attacked, and after several unsuccessful attempts D. Hodgetts scored again, about seven minutes after the ball had been kicked off. The Derby men then plucked up a bit, and transferred the play into the vicinity of the Villa’s goal; but Coulton and Simmonds were equal to the occasion, and removed the danger. A pass by Burton to Albert Brown gave the latter a chance to score, and he put in a good shot, but the goalkeeper punched out the ball. Continuing the pressure several more shots were put into goal by the Villa forwards, but they were all kept out by the fine play of the Derby custodian. At length, however, Rich Davis centred across the goal, and Loach knocked the ball through with his head. Stung by these reverses, the visitors’ forwards played up with some spirit, and after a time Ward got within shooting distance of the Villa goal and sent the ball well in. Warner, in running across the goal, fell down, and the ball passed between the Villa posts. Up to half time the game was all in favour of the Villa, who set the Derby goal in a state of siege. No further points were, however, obtained, and when half-time intervened the game stood - Villa 3, Derby Midland 1. On recommencing play, after the change of ends, Loach got to work on the Villa left, and put in a good shot; but Salt, amidst cries of “well saved” kept the ball from going through goal. Not to be denied, the Villa returned to the assault, and Dawson, pulling the ball to Brown, gave the latter a chance which he speedily availed himself of, and lowered the colours of the Derby men for the fourth time. The removal of the ball to the centre of the field scarcely afforded the visitors’ backs and goal-keeper breathing time, for a moment after the kick-off the Villa forwards were again “shotting in” and a corner fell to them, which proved abortive. The next noticeable feature of the game was a fine run and shot by R. Davis, who was heartily applauded, as was also the goal-keeper for stopping the shot. The visitors’ forwards then broke away, and passing Simmonds and Coulton, the Villa backs, seemed to have the goal at their mercy, but Warner running out in the nick of time sent the ball spinning up the field, where Loach and Hodgetts obtained it and took it into the rear quarters of the visitors. Hodgetts sent in a shot which was punched out, but Loach got possession of the leather, and put it to Albert Brown, who scored the fifth goal for the home team. An appeal for offside was made but was disallowed. About ten minutes from the call of time Archie Hunter scored a sixth goal and the Villa thus won a one-sided game by 6 goals to 1. Derby Midland : Salt, goal: Wright and Wildsmith, backs ; Ratcliff, Flowers, and Hickinbotham, half-backs : Wood and Shannon (left), Walker (centre), Strutt and Ward (right), forwards. Aston Villa : Warner, goal ; Simmonds and Coulton, backs ; Burton, Dawson, and Yates, halfbacks ; Hodgetts snd Leach (left), Hunter (centre). Davis and Albert Brown (right), forwards.
Reports

🟩 20 Nov 1886, Villa 6-1 Derby Midland, Wellington Road

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