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Aston Villa

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Saturday, 14 November 1885

1885-86

2nd Round

Lost

0-2

Derby County

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FA Cup

Racehorse Ground

Attendance: 5,000

🟥 14 Nov 1885, Villa 0-2 Derby, Racehorse Ground

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Scorer(s) | None

Assist(s) | None

Fixture List

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🟩 17 Oct 1885, Villa 5-0 Walsall Town, The Chuckery

FA Cup

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🟥 14 Nov 1885, Villa 0-2 Derby, Racehorse Ground

FA Cup

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On This Day

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Saturday, 14 November 1885

  • Villa face Derby County for the first time in competitive football, Derby become the 12th team that the Villa first team has played in League or Cup football.

  • Villa exit the FA Cup at the earliest stage since entering competition as they are knocked out in the second round by Derby. Meanwhile. goalkeeper Charlie Hobson, defenders Wally Jones & Tom Riddell, midfielders Robert Price & Arthur Brown and forward Olly Whateley made their final FA Cup appearances for Villa.

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Last 5: 🟩 🟨 🟩 🟩 🟥

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Management Committee 1879-86

🕒 26 | 🟩 | 16 🟨 | 4 🟥 6 | 2.00

Villa Career Form:

Top 4

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Game #26

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Match Record

Season | 1885-86 |
Matchday | #2 |
Manager Game | #26 |
Saturday, 14 November 1885

Game Record

Manager: Management Committee 1879-86
Referee: Piggott | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1885-
HT Score: 🟥 0-1
FT Result: 🟥 Lost
FT Score: 🟥 0-2
Last 5: 🟩 🟨 🟩 🟩 🟥

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Head to Head

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Previous 5 vs. Derby County: None

Total 🕒 1 | 🟩 W0 (0% ) | 🟨 D0 | 🇺(0% ) | 🟥 L1 (100% ) | ⚽ 0 | 🥅 2 | GD -2

Trophy Cabinet

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Aston Villa

FA Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: ❌

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Derby County

FA Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: ❌

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Squad News

Debut Appearances

Final Appearances

🔴 GK Charlie Hobson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1885 | 🕒 2 | ⚽ 0 | 🔥 0 | #33 |
🔴 B Wally Jones | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1885 | 🕒 2 | ⚽ 0 | 🔥 0 | #34 |
🔴 B Tom Riddell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1883-85 | 🕒 10 | ⚽ 0 | 🔥 0 | #30 |
🔴 HB Robert Price | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1883-85 | 🕒 8 | ⚽ 0 | 🔥 0 | #31 |
🔴 HB Arthur Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1880-85 | 🕒 22 | ⚽ 12 | 🔥 2 | #16 |
🔴 CF Olly Whateley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1881-85 | 🕒 19 | ⚽ 10 | 🔥 4 | #18 |

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Match Timeline

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🥅 | 30’ Goal, 0-1, (Derby County)
🕒 | HT Derby County 1-0 Aston Villa
🥅 | Goal, 0-2, (Derby County), G. Evans
🕒 | FT Derby County 2-0 Aston Villa

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Officials

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Referee: Piggott | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1885-
Umpires: William McGregor (Villa) and W. Shaw (Derby)

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Officials

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Referee Profile

VAR Profile (Post 2021)

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Officials

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Villa Bookings

None

Villa Sendings Off

None

Opposition Bookings

None

Opposition Sendings Off

None

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Match Stats

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Not recorded

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Line Up & Subs

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Aston Villa
Management Committee 1879-86

GK Charlie Hobson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔴 |
B Wally Jones | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔴 |
B Tom Riddell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔴 |
HB Robert Price | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔴 |
HB Jack Burton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
HB Arthur Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔴 |
IL Howard Vaughton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
IR Albert Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Richmond Davis | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Olly Whateley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔴 |
CF Archie Hunter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |

Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Unused Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Derby County
Management Committee

GK Walter Luntley
B Haydn Morley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
B Albert Williamson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
HB G. F. Cooper
HB Jack Flowers
HB Harry Wharmby
RW George Bakewell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RW Benjamin Spilsbury | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LW Albert Smith | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LW Lewis Cooper | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |
CF George Evans | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Substitutes

No Substitutions Permitted in Period

Unused Substitutes

No Substitutions Permitted in Period

Team News

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Aston Villa

Not recorded

Villa name an unchanged line up from the team that beat Walsall Town in the 1st Round.

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Derby County

Not Recorded

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Matchday Squads

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Derby County

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Match Media

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What they Said

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"Play was resumed at a tremendous pace, and the ball travelled from one end to the other without either side being able to claim superiority."

ASSOCIATION RULES.
ENGLISH CUP.

DERBY COUNTY v. ASTON VILLA

The tie in the second round of the National Cup competition was decided at Derby.

Both teams were in splendid condition, and the game was fast throughout. At the commencement play was very even, the assistance of each goalkeeper frequently being called into requisition; but half an hour elapsed before a goal was got, and that was placed to the credit of the home team.

Play was resumed at a tremendous pace, and the ball travelled from one end to the other without either side being able to claim superiority.

Derby County got a second goal after half time; from a left wing pass, Evans shot in the Villa custodian’s hands and he let it slip through.

From now to the finish the excitement was very great but no further score was made and Derby County won by two goals to one.

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Match Highlights

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Team Selection

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Goalkeeper

GK Charlie Hobson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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Defenders

B Wally Jones | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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B Tom Riddell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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HB Robert Price | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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HB Jack Burton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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Midfielders

HB Arthur Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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IL Howard Vaughton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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W Albert Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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F Richmond Davis | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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Forwards

CF Olly Whateley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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CF Archie Hunter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
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Substitutes

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1885-86

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First Team Squad

GK Charlie Hobson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #35 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

D Wally Jones | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #36 |

Defender

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Where are they now?

M Jack Burton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #33 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

CF Archie Hunter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #5 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F Richmond Davis | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #34 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

D Joe Simmonds | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #26 |

Defender

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Where are they now?

M Arthur Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #16 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M Robert Price | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #29 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

F Howard Vaughton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #14 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

D Tom Riddell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #30 |

Defender

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Where are they now?

M Fred Dawson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #17 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

F Albert A Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #32 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F Olly Whateley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #18 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

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Matchday Programme

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League Table

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The Trophy Cabinet

Domestic:

🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 
League Champions: 1893-94, 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-00, 1909-10, 1980-81

🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 
FA Cup Winners: 1886-87, 1894-95, 1896-97, 1904-05, 1912-13, 1919-20, 1956-57

🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
League Cup Winners: 1960-61, 1974-75, 1976-77, 1993-94, 1995-96


Europe:
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European Cup Winners: 1981-82
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European Super Cup Winners: 1982-83


Other Domestic:

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Second Division Champions: 1937-38, 1959-60

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Third Division Champions: 1971-72


Other Europe:

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Intertoto Cup Winners: 2001-02

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Peace Cup Winners: 2009

Reserve League
:
🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
Premier Reserve League Champions: 2003-04, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2009-10, 2011-12

🏆 🏆 🏆
Central League Champions: 1929-30, 1963-64, 1992-93

Reserve Cup
🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
Birmingham Senior Cup Winners: 1879-80, 1881-82, 1882-83, 1883-84, 1884-85, 1887-88, 1888-90, 1889-90, 1890-91, 1895-96, 1898-99, 1902-03, 1903-04, 1905-06, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1909-10, 1911-12, 1984-85, 2023-24 

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NextGen Series Winners: 2012-13

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Premier League Cup Winners: 2017-18

Youth League:
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u18s Premier League Champions: 2024-25
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u18s Premier League National Champions: 2024-25
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u18 Premier League Tier Two Champions 2016-17
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u18 Premier Academy League Academy Group B Champions: 2005-06, 2007-08, 2010-11
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u18 Premier Academy League National Champions 2007-08
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u17 FA Premier Academy League Champions: 1999-00, 2003-04
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Midland Youth League Champions: 1989-90, 1994-95, 1995-96

Youth Cup:
🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
FA Youth Cup Winners: 1971-72, 1979-80, 2001-02, 2020-21, 2024-25
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Midland Youth League Cup Winners: 1991-92, 1994-95
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Midland Youth Cup Winners: 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98
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Southern Junior Floodlit Cup: 1972-73, 1974-75, 1975-76, 1978-79, 1979-80, 1980-81, 1993-94

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