Villa's matches in the
1887-88
season
๐ฅ 7 Jan 1888, Villa 1-3 Preston, Wellington Road
Scorer(s) | Archie Hunter | 13' |
Assist(s) | None
5th Round
FA Cup
Manager: George Ramsay | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | Glasgow, 1886-1926 led Management Committee
Referee: John Charles Clegg | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Sheffield, 1888- ๐
HT Score: ๐จ 1-1
FT Result: ๐ฅ Lost
FT Score: ๐ฅ 1-3
Last 5: ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ
Season | 1887-88 |
Matchday | #4 |
Manager Game | #14 |
Friday, 7 January 1887
Team
GK Jimmy Warner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
B Frank Coulton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
B Gershom Cox | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Fred Dawson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Harry Yates | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Jack Burton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IR Albert Brown | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IR Tommy Green | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IL Albert Allen | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IL Dennis Hodgetts | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Archie Hunter | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Match Timeline
๐ฅ | Both captains and referee Clegg discuss that the game cannot be played as an FA Cup tie due to overcrowding and likely encroachment on the playing surface being detrimental to both teams.
๐ | Kick off
๐ฅ | Crowd encroachment leads to a 7.5โ delay to the game
๐ฅ | Preston officials protest continuance of play as an FA Cup tie and request it to be played as a friendly
โฝ | 13โ Goal, 1-0, Archie Hunter
๐ฅ | Crowd encroachment leads to a 9โ delay to the game
๐ฅ | Villa officials support Preston officials protest continuance of play as an FA Cup tie and request it to be played as a friendly
๐ฅ
| Goal, 1-1, (Preston North End), Johnny Goodall
๐ | HT Aston Villa 1-1 Preston North End
๐ฅ | Preston North Endโs Graham punches Tommy Green on the field of play
๐ฅ
| Goal, 1-2, (Preston North End), Ross jnr
๐ฅ | Mounted police arrive at the ground to try and prevent further encroachment
๐ฅ
| Goal, 1-3, (Preston North End), Ross jnr
๐ | FT Aston Villa 1-3 Preston North End
Post Match.
Suddell of Preston North End totally reneges on his in game protests.
The match officials and FA however call for a reply under Cup tie conditions.
Suddell refuses such a move and threatens to pull Preston North End from the competition in protest unless the result is upheld.
All parties assume this is a fit of pique and sense will prevail in Preston however Villa are minded to not push the matter so as to not damage the credibility of the competition and relationships between the clubs.
Preston have no such magnanimous pretensions to the disgust of the footballing fraternity.
Umpires C. J. Hughes (Cheshire) and M. P. Betts (Harrow) confirm that both captains had agreed to play the match as a friendly on the second encroachment with Villa one goal to the good.
Referee Clegg denies the recollection of both captains and umpires and claims that Villa had not concurred with the game being treated as a friendly.
Oddly this evidence is accepted by the FA.
As a consequence the FA claim they can only judge whether Prestonโs protest with the score at 0-0 means they are unable to claim the game at 3-1, and whether Villaโs alleged (by one individual, contested by four) failure to protest meant Villa were unable to retrospectively support Prestonโs protest.
When the FA meet one week later they determine that Preston are awarded the match.
They do so whilst ignoring the basis upon which they had claimed the case would have been judged, in itself that basis, due to some unorthodox statements from referee Clegg, effectively absolved Preston of any responsibility for their protest and counter protests.
The FA decided Preston, should be awarded the game as โAston Villa had not taken sufficient precautions for keeping the crowd outside the enclosureโ.
Villa did not challenge the decision despite the wildly inconsistent nature of the refereeโs recollections, the FAโs claims and basis for judgement and the abhorrent behaviour of Suddell and Preston North End.
Preston would end as FA Cup runners up to West Bromwich Albion.
๐ฉ 17 Dec 1887, Villa 9-0 Shankhouse, St James' Park
Scorer(s) | Archie Hunter | 8' | 3-0 | Albert Allen | 2-0 | 7-0 | Albert Brown | 4-0 | 9-0 | Tommy Green | 5-0 | 6-0 | Dennis Hodgetts | 8-0' |
Assist(s) | Dennis Hodgetts | 5-0 | Archie Hunter | 6-0 | Albert Brown | 7-0 |
4th Round
FA Cup
Manager: George Ramsay | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | Glasgow, 1886-1926 led Management Committee
Referee: Thomas Hindle | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Darwen, 1887-
HT Score: ๐ฉ 4-0
FT Result: ๐ฉ Won
FT Score: ๐ฉ 9-0
Last 5: ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ
Season | 1887-88 |
Matchday | #3 |
Manager Game | #13 |
Saturday, 17 December 1887
Team
GK Jimmy Warner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
B Frank Coulton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
B Gershom Cox | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
B Joe Simmonds | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Harry Yates | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Jack Burton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IR Albert Brown | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IR Tommy Green | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IL Albert Allen | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IL Dennis Hodgetts | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Archie Hunter | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Match Timeline
โฝ | 8โ Goal, 1-0, Archie Hunter
โฝ | Goal, 2-0, Albert Allen
โฝ | Goal, 3-0, Archie Hunter
โฝ | Goal, 4-0, Albert Brown
๐ | HT Shankhouse 0-4 Aston Villa
โฝ | Goal, 5-0, Tommy Green, Assist by Dennis Hodgetts
โฝ | Goal, 6-0, Tommy Green, Assist by Archie Hunter
โฝ | Goal, 7-0, Albert Allen, Assist by Albert Brown
โฝ | Goal, 8-0, Dennis Hodgetts
โฝ | Goal, 9-0, Albert Brown
๐ | FT Shankhouse 0-9 Aston Villa
๐ฉ 5 Nov 1887, Villa 4-0 Small Heath Alliance, Muntz Street
Scorer(s) | Tommy Green | 1-0 | 2-0 | Albert Brown | 3-0 | Albert Allen | 80' |
Assist(s) | Albert Allen | 1-0 | Albert Brown | 2-0 | Dennis Hodgetts | 3-0 |
2nd Round
FA Cup
Manager: George Ramsay | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | Glasgow, 1886-1926 led Management Committee
Referee: Unknown
HT Score: ๐ฉ 2-0
FT Result: ๐ฉ Won
FT Score: ๐ฉ 4-0
Last 5: ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ
Season | 1887-88 |
Matchday | #2 |
Manager Game | #12 |
Saturday, 5 November 1887
Team
GK Jimmy Warner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
B Frank Coulton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
B Gershom Cox | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Harry Devey | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Harry Yates | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Jack Burton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IR Albert Brown | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IR Tommy Green | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IL Albert Allen | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IL Dennis Hodgetts | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Archie Hunter | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Match Timeline
โฝ | Goal, 1-0, Tommy Green, Assist by Albert Allen
โฝ | Goal, 2-0, Tommy Green, Assist by Albert Brown
๐ | HT Small Heath Alliance 0-2 Aston Villa
โฝ | Goal, 3-0, Albert Brown, Assist by Dennis Hodgetts
โฝ | 80' Goal, 4-0, Albert Allen
๐ | FT Small Heath Alliance 0-4 Aston Villa
๐ฉ 15 Oct 1887, Villa 4-0 Oldbury Town, Oldbury
Scorer(s) | Albert Brown | 15โ | Albert Allen | 2-0 | Dennis Hodgetts | 3-0 | Albert Brown | 4-0 |
Assist(s) | Dennis Hodgetts | 15' |
1st Round
FA Cup
Manager: George Ramsay | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | Glasgow, 1886-1926 led Management Committee
Referee: Unknown
HT Score: ๐ฉ 1-0
FT Score: ๐ฉ 4-0
FT Result: ๐ฉ Won
Last 5: ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ
Season | 1887-88 |
Matchday | #1 |
Manager Game | #11 |
Saturday, 15 October 1887
Team
GK Jimmy Warner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
B Frank Coulton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
B Gershom Cox | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Harry Devey | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Harry Yates | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
HB Jack Burton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IR Albert Brown | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IR Tommy Green | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IL Albert Allen | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
IL Dennis Hodgetts | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Archie Hunter | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Match Timeline
๐ข | 1โ Debut, Gershom Cox, Harry Devey, Tommy Green, Albert Allen
โฝ | 15โ Goal, 1-0, Albert Brown, Assist by Dennis Hodgetts
๐ | HT Oldbury Town 0-1 Aston Villa
โฝ | Goal, 2-0, Albert Allen
โฝ | Goal, 3-0, Dennis Hodgetts
โฝ | Goal, 4-0, Albert Brown
๐ | FT Oldbury Town 0-4 Aston Villa