Aston Villa
2-0-2, 6 PTS
Wednesday, 5 September 1984
1984-85
11th (-6)
Lost
0-5
Nottingham Forest
3-0-1, 9 PTS
Division One
Villa Park
Attendance: 17,730
๐ฅ 5 Sep 1984, Villa 0-5 Forest, Villa Park
Scorer(s) | None
Assist(s) | None
Fixture List
๐ฉ 25 Aug 1984, Villa 1-0 Coventry, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฉ 27 Aug 1984, Villa 3-1 Stoke, Victoria Ground
Division One
๐ฅ 1 Sep 1984, Villa 0-3 Newcastle, St James'
Division One
๐ฅ 5 Sep 1984, Villa 0-5 Forest, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฉ 8 Sep 1984, Villa 4-2 Chelsea, Villa Park
Division One
๐จ 15 Sep 1984, Villa 3-3 Watford, Vicarage Road
Division One
๐ฅ 22 Sep 1984, Villa 0-1 Spurs, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฉ 24 Sep 1984, Villa 3-2 Scunthorpe, Glandford Park
League Cup
๐ฅ 29 Sep 1984, Villa 0-3 Ipswich, Portman Road
Division One
๐ฉ 6 Oct 1984, Villa 3-0 United, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฉ 10 Oct 1984, Villa 3-1 Scunthorpe, Villa Park
League Cup
๐ฅ 13 Oct 1984, Villa 1-2 Everton, Goodison
Division One
๐จ 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฅ 27 Oct 1984, Villa 0-5 Leicester, Filbert Street
Division One
๐ฅ 30 Oct 1984, Villa 0-1 QPR, Loftus Road
League Cup
๐จ 3 Nov 1984, Villa 0-0 West Ham, Villa Park
Division One
๐จ 10 Nov 1984, Villa 1-1 Arsenal, Highbury
Division One
๐จ 17 Nov 1984, Villa 2-2 Southampton, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฅ 24 Nov 1984, Villa 0-2 QPR, Loftus Road
Division One
๐ฉ 1 Dec 1984, Villa 1-0 Sunderland, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฅ 8 Dec 1984, Villa 0-1 Luton, Kenilworth Road
Division One
๐จ 15 Dec 1984, Villa 0-0 Liverpool, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฉ 22 Dec 1984, Villa 4-0 Newcastle, Villa Park
Division One
๐จ 26 Dec 1984, Villa 1-1 Wednesday, Hillsborough
Division One
๐ฅ 29 Dec 1984, Villa 2-3 Forest, City Ground
Division One
๐ฉ 1 Jan 1985, Villa 3-1 Albion, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฅ 5 Jan 1985, Villa 0-3 Liverpool, Anfield
FA Cup
๐ฉ 19 Jan 1985, Villa 3-0 Coventry, Highfield Road
Division One
๐ฉ 2 Feb 1985, Villa 2-1 Ipswich, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฉ 23 Feb 1985, Villa 2-1 West Ham, Upton Park
Division One
๐ฅ 2 Mar 1985, Villa 0-1 Leicester, Villa Park
Division One
๐จ 9 Mar 1985, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Carrow Road
Division One
๐จ 13 Mar 1985, Villa 0-0 Arsenal, Villa Park
Division One
๐จ 16 Mar 1985, Villa 1-1 Everton, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฅ 23 Mar 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
Division One
๐ฉ 27 Mar 1985, Villa 2-0 Stoke, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฉ 30 Mar 1985, Villa 2-0 Spurs, White Hart Lane
Division One
๐ฉ 6 Apr 1985, Villa 3-0 Wednesday, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฅ 8 Apr 1985, Villa 0-1 Albion, Hawthorns
Division One
๐ฅ 16 Apr 1985, Villa 1-3 Chelsea, Stamford Bridge
Division One
๐ฅ 20 Apr 1985, Villa 0-2 Southampton, The Dell
Division One
๐จ 24 Apr 1985, Villa 1-1 Watford, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฉ 27 Apr 1985, Villa 5-2 QPR, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฉ 4 May 1985, Villa 4-0 Sunderland, Roker
Division One
๐ฅ 6 May 1985, Villa 0-1 Luton, Villa Park
Division One
๐ฅ 11 May 1985, Villa 1-2 Liverpool, Anfield
Division One
On This Day
Wednesday, 5 September 1984
Fans worst fears are realised as the rot sets in quickly under Graham Turner ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ who presides over one of the worst ever performances seen at Villa Park.
Villa had now conceded eight without reply in two games under Turner as they slump to 11th in the early table.
Meanwhile, Herbert Douglas Ellisโ desecration of the squad continues.
Des Bremner ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ 32 makes his ๐ 227th & final appearance in a Villa shirt (222 Starts) before being sold to of all places Birmingham City later this month for a paltry fee of ยฃ25,000. Bremner's departure comes just two games after he was seen to be back to his best form and was moved on by Ellis, despite, and maybe because of the influence he held at Villa.
Bremner ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ was the seventh member of the fourteen man League title winning squad that had now been forced out of the club and left with a record of ๐ฉ W104 ๐จ D52 ๐ฅ L71, โฝ 10 Goals and ๐ฅ 10 Assists.
Villa under Ellis had now discarded Kenny Swain ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ, Ken McNaught ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, Jimmy Rimmer ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ, David Geddis ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ, Tony Morley ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ, Eamonn Deacy and Bremner ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ.
Gordon Cowans ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ suffers his ๐ฅ 100th defeat in a Villa shirt on his ๐ 327th appearance (312 Starts) to make it ๐ฉ W152 ๐จ D75 ๐ฅ L100, โฝ 50 Goals and ๐ฅ 50 Assists at a goal involvement rate of one for every 3.27 games he has played so far in his Villa career.
Right Back Gary Williams ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ makes his ๐ 200th appearance in a Villa shirt (195 Starts).
Last 5: ๐ฅ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
Graham Turner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1984-1986
๐ 4 | ๐ฉ | 2 ๐จ | 0 ๐ฅ 2 | 1.50
Villa Career Form:
Top 8
Game #3818
Match Record
Season | 1984-85 |
Matchday | #4 |
League Match | #4 |
Manager Game | #4 |
Wednesday, 5 September 1984
Game Record
Manager: Graham Turner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: Joe Worrall | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Warrington, 1977-1995
HT Score: ๐ฅ 0-1
FT Result: ๐ฅ Lost
FT Score: ๐ฅ 0-5
Last 5: ๐ฅ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
Head to Head
Previous 5 vs. Forest: ๐จ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐จ ๐ฉ
Total ๐ 96 | ๐ฉ W48 (50% ) | ๐จ D18 | ๐บ(69% ) | ๐ฅ L30 (31% ) | โฝ 178 | ๐ฅ 135 | GD 43
Trophy Cabinet
Aston Villa
European Cup / Champions League: ๐
League Champions: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
FA Cup Winners: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
League Cup Winners: ๐๐๐
Last Trophy: 1981-82
Nottingham Forest
European Cup / Champions League: ๐๐
League Champions: ๐
FA Cup Winners: ๐๐
League Cup Winners: ๐๐
Last Trophy: 1979-80
Squad News
Debut Appearances
None
Final Appearances
๐ด M Des Bremner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | 1979-84 ๐ 227 | โ 222 ๐ (5) | โฝ 10 | ๐ฅ 10 | ๐บ 7 | #606 |
Match Timeline
๐ฅ
| 33โ Goal, 0-1, (Nottingham Forest), Ian Bowyer
๐ | HT Aston Villa 0-1 Nottingham Forest
๐ฅ
| 60โ Goal, 0-2, (Nottingham Forest), Trevor Christie
๐ฅ
| 68โ Goal, 0-3, (Nottingham Forest), Trevor Christie
๐ | 72' Sub off, Dennis Mortimer, Sub on, Paul Rideout
๐ฅ
| 78โ Goal, 0-4, (Nottingham Forest), Steve Hodge
๐ฅ
| 88โ Goal, 0-5, (Nottingham Forest), Trevor Christie
๐ | FT Aston Villa 0-5 Nottingham Forest
๐จ | Booking, Allan Evans, Dissent
๐จ | Booking, Gary Williams, Foul
๐จ | Booking, Peter Withe, Dissent
Officials
Referee: Joe Worrall | ๐ด๓ ง ๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Warrington, 1977-1995
Officials
Referee Profile
VAR Profile (Post 2021)
Officials
Villa Bookings
๐จ Allan Evans, Dissent (33)
โญ Club Record
๐จ Gary Williams, Foul (10)
๐จ Peter Withe, Dissent (25)
Villa Sendings Off
None
Opposition Bookings
๐จ
Opposition Sendings Off
None
Match Stats
Not recorded
Line Up & Subs
Aston Villa
Graham Turner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1984-1986
GK Mervyn Day | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Allan Evans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
CB Steve Foster | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB Gary Williams | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Colin Gibson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Des Bremner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | ๐ด |
M Gordon Cowans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Steve McMahon | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Dennis Mortimer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐ |
W Mark Walters | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Peter Withe | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Substitutes
๐ | CF Paul Rideout | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | for M Dennis Mortimer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 72' |
Unused Substitutes
None
Nottingham Forest
Brian Clough | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
GK Steve Sutton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Paul Hart | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Chris Fairclough | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐จ |
D Bryn Gunn | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐ |
RB Kenny Swain (ex) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Johnny Metgod | ๐ณ๐ฑ |
M Steve Hodge | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โฝ |
M Ian Bowyer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โฝ |
W Steve Wigley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Trevor Christie | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โฝ | โฝ | โฝ |
CF Peter Davenport | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Substitutes
๐ | D Bryn Gunn | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | (M Gary Mills | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |)
Unused Substitutes
None
Team News
Aston Villa
Not recorded
Graham Turner names an unchanged line up.
Nottingham Forest
Not Recorded
Matchday Squads
Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest
Match Media
What they Said
Match Highlights
Team Selection
Goalkeeper
Defenders
Midfielders
Forwards
Substitutes
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 4
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 2
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 3
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 5
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
1984-85
First Team Squad
GK Kevin Poole | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #632 |
Goalkeeper
Where are they now?
Burton Albion ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
CB Allan Evans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #594 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
Darlington FC ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
CB Steve Foster | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #626 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
Brighton & Hove Albion ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Alan Curbishley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #620 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Charlton Athletic ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M David Norton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #630 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Gainsborough Trinity ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Gordon Cowans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #582 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Burnley ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Ray Walker | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #621 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Newcastle Town ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
W Tony Daley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #633 |
Winger
Where are they now?
Forest Green ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
F Gary Shaw | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #596 |
Forward
Where are they now?
Ernest Borel ๐ญ๐ฐ Died 2024
GK Mervyn Day | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #624 |
Goalkeeper
Where are they now?
Carlisle United ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
CB Brendan Ormsby | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #599 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
Wigan Athletic ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
LB Gary Williams | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #598 |
Full Back
Where are they now?
Bradford City ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Colin Gibson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #601 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Walsall ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Dennis Mortimer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #580 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Birmingham City ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Paul Birch | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #619 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Halesowen Town ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Died
M Steve McMahon | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #622 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Swindon Town ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
F Andy Richardson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Forward
Where are they now?
Without Club since 1988
CF Paul Rideout | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #623 |
Forward
Where are they now?
Tranmere Rovers ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
GK Nigel Spink | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #611 |
Goalkeeper
Where are they now?
Forest Green Rovers ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
CB Dean Glover | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #625 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
Kidderminster Harriers ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
LB Tony Dorigo | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #628 |
Full Back
Where are they now?
Stoke City ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Darren Bradley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #631 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Walsall ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Des Bremner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #606 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Stafford Rangers ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Paul Kerr | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #627 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Wycombe Wanderers ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
W Mark Walters | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #618
Winger
Where are they now?
Bristol Rovers ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
F Didier Six | ๐ซ๐ท | #629 |
Forward
Where are they now?
VfB Leipzig ๐ฉ๐ช Retired
CF Peter Withe | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #615 |
Forward
Where are they now?
Huddersfield Town ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
Matchday Programme
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