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Game #3449

Aston Villa

2-1-3, 5 PTS

Saturday, 17 September 1977

Lost

13th= (-3)

Last 5: ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸจ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฅ

Division One

Nottingham Forest

Attendance: 31,016

City Ground

5-0-1, 10 PTS

Nottingham Forest

2-0

Aston Villa

Assist(s) | None

MATCH SUMMARY

Villa crash at the City Ground just days after their best performance of the season to date against Fenerbahรงe and Ron Saunders is in no mood for forgiveness.

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MATCH TIMELINE

Saturday, 17 September 1977

๐Ÿฅ… | 6โ€™ Goal, 0-1, (Nottingham Forest), Tony Woodcock
๐Ÿ•’ | HT Nottingham Forest 1-0 Aston Villa
๐Ÿฅ… | 90โ€™ Goal, 0-2, (Nottingham Forest), John Robertson
๐Ÿ•’ | FT Nottingham Forest 2-0 Aston Villa

ON THIS DAY

Ron Saunders' Villa lose for the first time in five matches to make it two wins, one draw and three defeats in six division one games this season. Meanwhile, full back John Robson made his final appearance for Villa aged 27 before retiring from football after his contract was cancelled in November 1978. Robson had been diagnosed as being in the early stages of multiple sclerosis (MS) and was forced to retire from playing. Robson played for Villa between 1972-73 and 1977-78 making 176 appearances, scoring once.

Aston Villa

League Champions: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† ๐Ÿ†
FA Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
League Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
Last Trophy: 1976-77

Nottingham Forest

League Champions: โŒ
FA Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
League Cup Winners: โŒ
Last Trophy: 1958-59

FIXTURE HISTORY

Nottingham Forest

Previous 5 vs. Forest: ๐ŸŸจ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฉ

FIXTURE DETAILS

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Season | 1977-78 |
Matchday | #8 |
League Match | #6 |
Manager Game | #167 |
Saturday, 17 September 1977

MATCH SUMMARY

Manager: Ron Saunders | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Birkenhead, 1974-1982
Referee: Alan Porter | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Bolton, 1973-1981
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: ๐ŸŸฅ 0-1
FT Result: ๐ŸŸฅ Lost
FT Score: ๐ŸŸฅ 0-2
Last 5: ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸจ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸฅ

MANAGERIAL RECORD

Ron Saunders | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

GAMES | WINS | DRAWS | LOSSES | POINTS PER GAME

๐Ÿ•’ 167 | ๐ŸŸฉ | 80 ๐ŸŸจ | 42 ๐ŸŸฅ 45 | 1.70

Villa Career Form:

Top 6

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Alan Porter | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Bolton, 1973-1981
Matches Officiated: 2
๐ŸŸฉ : 0
๐ŸŸจ : 0
๐ŸŸฅ : 2
๐Ÿ†˜ : 0
Previous 5: ๐ŸŸฅ
Last Match: ๐ŸŸฅ 14 May 1977, Villa 2-3 Newcastle, St James' Park.
Cards: None

ALL THE MATCHES REFEREED BY:

CARDS

Villa

None

Nottingham Forest

None

TEAM NEWS

Gordon Cowans replaces Andy Gray.

TEAM STATS

Starting XI Average Age
| 24.96 |

Oldest Player |
GK Jimmy Rimmer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 29.62 |

Youngest Player |
M Gordon Cowans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 18.90 |

MANAGER

Ron Saunders | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

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Aston Villa

GK Jimmy Rimmer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Ken McNaught | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
RB John Gidman | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
FB John Robson | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐Ÿ”ด |
M Leighton Phillips | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ |
M Gordon Cowans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Alex Cropley | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
M Dennis Mortimer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Frank Carrodus | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
F John Deehan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
F Brian Little | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

MANAGER

Brian Clough | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

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Nottingham Forest

GK Peter Shilton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Colin Barrett | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Larry Lloyd | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Kenny Burns | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
RB Viv Anderson | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Ian Bowyer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M John McGovern | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
M Martin O'Neill | ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง |
W John Robertson | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | โšฝ |
CF Tony Woodcock | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โšฝ |
CF Peter Withe | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

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Not necessarily indicative of the actual matchday formation

SUBSTITUTES

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No Substitutions Made

SUBSTITUTES

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No Substitutions Made

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UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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FB Gordon Smith | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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F John O'Hare | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |

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SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง : 11/11

Squad:
Home Nation ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง : 12/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง : 11/11

Squad:
Home Nation ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง : 12/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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UNAVAILABLE

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Injury | 1 |
CF Andy Gray | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |

UNAVAILABLE

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Not Recorded

Player Positions:

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GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Halfโ€จ

M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

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Match Symbols:

โ€‹

โšฝ | Goal
๐Ÿ”ฅ | Assist
๐Ÿ” | Substitution

๐ŸŸจ | Booking

๐ŸŸฅ | Sending off

๐Ÿ†˜ | Poor refereeing performance
๐ŸŸข : Debut ๐Ÿ”ด : Final Game

DEBUT APPEARANCES

FINAL APPEARANCES

๐Ÿ”ด FB John Robson | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1972-77 | ๐Ÿ•’ 174 | 171 (3) | โšฝ 1 | ๐Ÿ”ฅ 4 | ๐Ÿ‡บ 12 | #561 |

MATCH STATS

Not recorded

MATCH QUOTES

"I never criticise my players publicly because I do not think it is fair on them, but I know what the problem is and I shall be taking steps to do something about it. "We have thrown away so many points this season and we did it again against Forest. โ€œIt's obvious to me where the weaknesses lie and I shall be sorting things out with the players. "We have too many good players but at the moment we haven't a good team." Ron Saunders.

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