Game #3449
Aston Villa
2-1-3, 5 PTS
Saturday, 17 September 1977
13th= (-3)
Last 5: ๐ฉ ๐จ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ
Lost
0-2
๐ฅ 17 Sep 1977, Villa 0-2 Forest, City Ground
Division One
Nottingham Forest
5-0-1, 10 PTS
City Ground
Attendance: 31,016
On This Day
Villa crash at the City Ground just days after their best performance of the season to date against Fenerbahรงe and Ron Saunders is in no mood for forgiveness.
Ron Saunders' Villa lose for the first time in five matches to make it two wins, one draw and three defeats in six division one games this season.
Meanwhile, full back John Robson made his final appearance for Villa aged 27 before retiring from football after his contract was cancelled in November 1978. Robson had been diagnosed as being in the early stages of multiple sclerosis (MS) and was forced to retire from playing. Robson played for Villa between 1972-73 and 1977-78 making 176 appearances, scoring once.
GK Jimmy Rimmer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Ken McNaught | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
RB John Gidman | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
FB John Robson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐ด |
M Leighton Phillips | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ |
M Gordon Cowans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Alex Cropley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
M Dennis Mortimer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Frank Carrodus | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
F John Deehan | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
F Brian Little | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Ron Saunders | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1974-1982
Substitutes
No Substitutions Made
Unused Substitutes
RB Gordon Smith | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Yellow Cards (Warnings, Cautions, Bookings)
None
Red Cards (Ordered from Field of Play, Dismissals, Sendings Off)
None
Trophy Record
League Champions: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
FA Cup Winners: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
League Cup Winners: ๐๐๐
Last Trophy: 1976-77
Matchday Squad
Unavailable
Injury | 1 |
CF Andy Gray | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Team News
Gordon Cowans replaces Andy Gray.
Team Stats
Starting XI Average Age
| 24.96 |
Oldest Player |
GK Jimmy Rimmer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 29.62 |
Youngest Player |
M Gordon Cowans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 18.90 |
Debut Appearances
None
Final Appearances
๐ด FB John Robson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1972-77 ๐ 174 | โ 171 ๐ (3) | โฝ 1 | ๐ฅ 7 | ๐บ 13 | #562 |
Starting XI
Scorer(s) | None
Assist(s) | None
Match Timeline
๐ฅ
| 6โ Goal, 0-1, (Nottingham Forest), Tony Woodcock
๐ | HT Nottingham Forest 1-0 Aston Villa
๐ฅ
| 90โ Goal, 0-2, (Nottingham Forest), John Robertson
๐ | FT Nottingham Forest 2-0 Aston Villa
Season | 1977-78 |
Matchday | #8 |
League Match | #6 |
Manager Game | #167 |
Saturday, 17 September 1977
Match Record
Game Record
Manager: Ron Saunders | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Birkenhead, 1974-1982
Referee: Alan Porter | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Bolton, 1977-1980
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: ๐ฅ 0-1
FT Result: ๐ฅ Lost
FT Score: ๐ฅ 0-2
Last 5: ๐ฉ ๐จ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ
Officials
Referee: Alan Porter | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Bolton, 1977-1980
Previous 5 vs. Forest: ๐จ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ
Head to Head
Total ๐ 80 | ๐ฉ W42 (53% ) | ๐จ D15 | ๐บ(71% ) | ๐ฅ L23 (29% ) | โฝ 154 | ๐ฅ 105 | GD 49
Match Stats
Not recorded
Ron Saunders | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1974-1982
๐ 167 | ๐ฉ | 80 ๐จ | 42 ๐ฅ 45 | 1.70
Villa Career Form:
Top 6
What they Said
"I never criticise my players publicly because I do not think it is fair on them, but I know what the problem is and I shall be taking steps to do something about it.
"We have thrown away so many points this season and we did it again against Forest.
โIt's obvious to me where the weaknesses lie and I shall be sorting things out with the players.
"We have too many good players but at the moment we haven't a good team."
Ron Saunders.
GK Peter Shilton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Colin Barrett | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Larry Lloyd | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Kenny Burns | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
RB Viv Anderson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Ian Bowyer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M John McGovern | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
M Martin O'Neill | ๐ฌ๐ง |
W John Robertson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | โฝ |
CF Tony Woodcock | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โฝ |
CF Peter Withe | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Brian Clough | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Substitutes
No Substitutions Made
Unused Substitutes
F John O'Hare | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Yellow Cards (Warnings, Cautions, Bookings)
None
Red Cards (Ordered from Field of Play, Dismissals, Sendings Off)
None
Opposition Trophy Record
League Champions: โ
FA Cup Winners: ๐๐
League Cup Winners: โ
Last Trophy: 1958-59
Opposition Matchday Squad
Opposition Unavailable
Not Recorded
League Table
1977-78
Playing Squad
GK Jake Findlay | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #567 |
Goalkeeper
Where are they now?
GK Jimmy Rimmer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #591 |
Goalkeeper
Where are they now?
GK John Burridge | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #577 |
Goalkeeper
Where are they now?
CB Allan Evans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด ๓ ฟ | #594 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
CB Allan Evans (Coach) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
Plymouth Argyle u18 Manager ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
CB Brendan Ormsby | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #599 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
CB Charlie Young | ๐จ๐พ | #585 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
CB David Evans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #593 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
CB Ken McNaught | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #590 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
CB Leighton Phillips | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ | #572 |
Centre Back
Where are they now?
LB Gary Williams | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #598 |
Full Back
Where are they now?
RB Gordon Smith | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #583 |
Full Back
Where are they now?
RB John Gidman | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #560 |
Full Back
Where are they now?
FB John Robson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #562 |
Full Back
Where are they now?
LB Mick Buttress | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #586 |
Full Back
Where are they now?
M Alex Cropley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #584 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
M Dennis Mortimer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #580 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
M Gary Shelton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #595 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
M Gordon Cowans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #582 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Burnley ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired
M Ivor Linton | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #588 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
M John Gregory | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #589 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
M John Gregory (Coach) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
Malappuram FC Manager ๐ฎ๐ณ Retired
M Tommy Craig | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #592 |
Midfielder
Where are they now?
W Frank Carrodus | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #569 |
Winger
Where are they now?
F Adrian O'Dowd | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Unused Sub |
Forward
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CF Andy Gray | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #578 |
Forward
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F Brian Little | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #555 |
Forward
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CF John Deehan | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #579 |
Forward
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