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Aston Villa

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Saturday, 30 September 1893

1893-94

Drew

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Derby County

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Division One

Wellington Road, Perry Barr

Attendance: 10,000

🟨 30 Sep 1893, Villa 1-1 Derby, Wellington Road

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Scorer(s) | Unknown |

Assist(s) | None

Fixture List

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🟩 2 Sep 1893, Villa 3-2 Albion, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟨 9 Sep 1893, Villa 1-1 Sunderland, Newcastle Road

Division One

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🟩 11 Sep 1893, Villa 5-1 Stoke, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟥 16 Sep 1893, Villa 2-4 Everton, Goodison

Division One

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🟩 23 Sep 1893, Villa 3-1 Everton, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟨 30 Sep 1893, Villa 1-1 Derby, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟥 2 Oct 1893, Villa 0-3 Sheffield United, Bramall Lane

Division One

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🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

Division One

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🟨 14 Oct 1893, Villa 1-1 Darwen, Barley Bank

Division One

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🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

Division One

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🟩 21 Oct 1893, Villa 6-3 Albion, Stoney Lane

Division One

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🟩 28 Oct 1893, Villa 4-0 Burnley, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟩 30 Oct 1893, Villa 4-0 Sheffield United, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟥 4 Nov 1893, Villa 0-2 Blackburn, Ewood

Division One

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🟩 11 Nov 1893, Villa 2-1 Sunderland, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟩 18 Nov 1893, Villa 1-0 Bolton, Pike's Lane

Division One

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🟩 25 Nov 1893, Villa 2-0 Preston, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟩 2 Dec 1893, Villa 3-0 Derby, Racehorse Ground

Division One

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🟩 9 Dec 1893, Villa 3-0 Wednesday, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟩 16 Dec 1893, Villa 3-1 Newton Heath, Bank Street

Division One

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🟥 23 Dec 1893, Villa 0-3 Wolves, Molineux

Division One

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🟩 26 Dec 1893, Villa 9-0 Darwen, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟨 6 Jan 1894, Villa 2-2 Wednesday, Olive Grove

Division One

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🟩 18 Jan 1894, Villa 5-2 Preston, Deepdale

Division One

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🟩 27 Jan 1894, Villa 4-2 Wolves, Wellington Road

FA Cup

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🟩 3 Feb 1894, Villa 5-1 Newton Heath, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟨 10 Feb 1894, Villa 2-2 Sunderland, Newcastle Road

FA Cup

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🟩 21 Feb 1894, Villa 3-1 Sunderland, Wellington Road

FA Cup

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🟥 24 Feb 1894, Villa 2-3 Wednesday, Olive Grove

FA Cup

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🟥 3 Mar 1894, Villa 2-3 Bolton, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟩 24 Mar 1894, Villa 2-1 Blackburn, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟨 26 Mar 1894, Villa 1-1 Wolves, Wellington Road

Division One

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🟩 7 Apr 1894, Villa 6-3 Burnley, Turf Moor

Division One

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🟩 14 Apr 1894, Villa 3-1 Forest, Wellington Road

Division One

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On This Day

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Saturday, 30 September 1893

Midfielder Willie Groves made his delayed Villa debut age 23 after West Bromwich Albion initially refused to release the player despite his having signed for Villa prior to the start of the season.
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Last 5: 🟨 🟩 🟥 🟩 🟨

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George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

🕒 155 | 🟩 78 🟨 22 🟥 55 | 1.65

Villa Career Form:

Top 6

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Game #181

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Match Record

Season | 1893-94 |
Matchday | #6 |
League Match | #6 |
Manager Game | #155 |
Saturday, 30 September 1893

Game Record

Manager: George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | Glasgow, 1886-1926 led Management Committee
FT Score | 1-1 |
FT Result | Drew |
Last 5 Games | DWLWD |

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Head to Head

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Previous 5 vs. Derby County: | 🟩 | 🟥 | 🟩 | 🟩 | 🟥 |

Total 🕒 13 | 🟩 W6 (46% ) | 🟨 D1 | 🇺(54% ) | 🟥 L6 (46% ) | ⚽ 42 | 🥅 31 | GD 11

Trophy Cabinet

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Aston Villa

League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: 🏆
Last Trophy: 1886–87

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Derby County

League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: ❌

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Squad News

Debut Appearances

Final Appearances

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Match Timeline

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[Exact timings not recorded]
1’ Debut, Willie Groves
Goal, 1-0, Unknown
HT Aston Villa 1-0 Derby County
Goal, 1-1, (Derby County)
FT Aston Villa 1-1 Derby County

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Officials

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Officials

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Referee Profile

VAR Profile (Post 2021)

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Officials

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Villa Bookings

None

Villa Sendings Off

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Opposition Bookings

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Opposition Sendings Off

None

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Match Stats

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Not recorded

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Line Up & Subs

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Aston Villa
George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

GK Bill Dunning |
D John Baird |
CB Jimmy Cowan |
FB Jimmy Welford |
M Jack Reynolds |
M Willie Groves |
W Albert Woolley |
F William Devey |
F Jack Devey |
F Dennis Hodgetts |
F Bob Chatt |

Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Unused Substitutes

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Derby County
Management Committee

Substitutes

No Substitutions Permitted in Period

Unused Substitutes

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Team News

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Aston Villa

Not recorded

Two changes for Villa from the team that beat Everton last time out as Bob Chatt returns and Willie Groves makes his debut with James Gillan and Charlie Athersmith dropping out.

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Derby County

Not Recorded

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Matchday Squads

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Derby County

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Match Media

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What they Said

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"The Villa on Saturday gave a very poor display at Perry Barr, and will have to show a great improvement at Sheffield today or they will most assuredly be beaten by the United."

ASTON VILLA V. DERBY COUNTY.

Played at Perry Barr. Derby winning the toss. Groves kicked off for the Villa. After a few minutes the Villa made a run uphill, and scored. The visitors took the ball down, but the home defence was too smart, and Woolley again nearly scored. Several fouls were now made on both sides. Notwithstanding the strong wind against them, the Villa were having the best of the play. Derby only occasionally becoming dangerous. The game slowed down very much, little being done by either.

Half-time:—Villa, one goal: Derby, none.

On changing ends, the Villa were soon swarming down Robinson’s citadel, that player making some marvellous saves. The visitors were forced to give a corner, and Cowan kicking in, and with Hodgetts on the top of Robinson. a goal seemed certain, but the ball hit the crossbar, the Villa having very hard lines in not scoring. Devey, Hodgetts, and Woolley shooting.

The visitors obtained short respite, and again Woolley tried, just missing the posts.

W. Devey failed to take advantage of an easy chance, and Derby went away, Cowan and Reynolds driving them back. The visitors now took up the play, causing the home team considerable anxiety, and very nearly scoring on several occasions. Both the Goodalls played a superb game. John Goodall equalising. Both teams now used all their energy to obtain the winning point, but the result was a draw of one goal each.
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*The Birmingham Daily Post*
Tuesday 03 October 1893

NOTES ON SPORT.

The conduct and duty of spectators at football matches have already been commented upon in these notes, and, unfortunately, Saturday’s matches have furnished two incidents which render further reference to the question imperative.

To come nearer home, we are glad to be able to say that the elaborate precautions taken by the Villa committee to ensure the protection of the opposing players and the referee have hitherto been unnecessary, and it is to be hoped they will always be so.

The behaviour of the Villa spectators has so far been excellent, and good play on the part of the visitors has been applauded as heartily as it could be.

On Saturday, for instance, when Derby County scored the goal that put them level with the Villa a loud cheer went up from the crowd, and it could scarcely hare been greater had the success been the Villa’s. We trust this will always be the case, and go farther and say that when an unjust decision is given by a referee it will be received in silence. Let Birmingham spectators show that they at least can appreciate the trying and arduous position of the referee, without whom football could not be played.

The visit of the Queen’s Park was not the success financially that it was hoped to be, but as an exhibition of football the match will always be remembered by those who were fortunate enough to see it.

The spirit in which the game was contested was most sportsmanlike, for there were none of those dirty little tricks observable to which players unfortunately sometimes descend.

As was truly observed by Smellie, the visitors’ captain, at the dinner which followed the match, whilst there are such games football will never be without supporters.

The visitors were worthy successors to that great eleven that visited Perry Barr about thirteen years ago, when Archie Hunter, Andy Hunter, Law, and Eli Davis were famous members of the Aston Villa.

The forwards combined beautifully, the half-backs played in a manner which the Villa men would do well to imitate, whilst the defence was grand.

Every man showed complete reliance upon his neighbour, and the character of the play forcibly reminded one of the Preston North End of five or six years ago.

The Villa players are to be congratulated on drawing with such a grand eleven, especially when one considers that John Devey and Athersmith were not playing.

A match between the full strength of both teams on a dry day would be worth going miles to witness. It is to be hoped that the Queens Park will be more frequently seen at Perry Barr than of late years.

The Villa on Saturday gave a very poor display at Perry Barr, and will have to show a great improvement at Sheffield today or they will most assuredly be beaten by the United.

The fault lay with the forwards, who did not show that fine combination which is characteristic of their play. Hodgetts and Woolley were not in their usual form, whilst W. Devey and his brother were not an ideal wing, the former being manifestly out of his position on the extreme right.

W. Groves in the centre played hard and at times passed beautifully, but the opportunities that he gave his comrades were not utilised.

The Villa half-backs did fairly well, whilst Welford distinguished himself at back, and Baird also kicked and tackled excellently.

The County did not display any great brilliance, but there was more cohesion about them than there was about the Villa, and this enabled them to have quite as much of the play.

The two Goodalls were the most prominent members in the attack, whilst Robinson deserves praise for his clever goalkeeping. The game, however, was by no means a great one, and contrasted very unfavourably with the match played on Thursday.

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Match Highlights

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Team Selection

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Goalkeeper

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1893-94

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First Team Squad

GK Bill Dunning | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #82 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

CB Jimmy Cowan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #56 |

Centre Back

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Where are they now?

FB John Baird | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #76 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

M Jack Reynolds | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #96 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

W Albert Woolley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #93 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

W Steve Smith | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #100 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

F Charlie Hare | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #78 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

CF Jimmy Logan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #88 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

GK Len Benwell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #102 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

FB Jim Elliott | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #95 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

M Fred Burton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #89 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M James Gillan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #97 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

W Bill Randle | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #101 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

F Albert A Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #32 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F Dennis Hodgetts | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #38 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F William Devey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #92 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

D Frank Coulton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #37 |

Defender

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Where are they now?

FB Jimmy Welford | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #98 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

M George Russell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #103 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M Willie Groves | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #99 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

W Charlie Athersmith | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #73 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

F Bob Chatt | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #94 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

CF Jack Devey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #74 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

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Matchday Programme

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League Table

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The Trophy Cabinet

Domestic:

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League Champions: 1893-94, 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-00, 1909-10, 1980-81

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FA Cup Winners: 1886-87, 1894-95, 1896-97, 1904-05, 1912-13, 1919-20, 1956-57

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League Cup Winners: 1960-61, 1974-75, 1976-77, 1993-94, 1995-96


Europe:
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European Cup Winners: 1981-82
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European Super Cup Winners: 1982-83


Other Domestic:

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Second Division Champions: 1937-38, 1959-60

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Third Division Champions: 1971-72


Other Europe:

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Intertoto Cup Winners: 2001-02

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Peace Cup Winners: 2009

Reserve League
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Premier Reserve League Champions: 2003-04, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2009-10, 2011-12

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Reserve Cup
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Birmingham Senior Cup Winners: 1879-80, 1881-82, 1882-83, 1883-84, 1884-85, 1887-88, 1888-90, 1889-90, 1890-91, 1895-96, 1898-99, 1902-03, 1903-04, 1905-06, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1909-10, 1911-12, 1984-85, 2023-24 

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NextGen Series Winners: 2012-13

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Premier League Cup Winners: 2017-18

Youth League:
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u18s Premier League Champions: 2024-25
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u18s Premier League National Champions: 2024-25
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u18 Premier League Tier Two Champions 2016-17
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u18 Premier Academy League Academy Group B Champions: 2005-06, 2007-08, 2010-11
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u17 FA Premier Academy League Champions: 1999-00, 2003-04
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Midland Youth League Champions: 1989-90, 1994-95, 1995-96

Youth Cup:
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Midland Youth Cup Winners: 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98
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Southern Junior Floodlit Cup: 1972-73, 1974-75, 1975-76, 1978-79, 1979-80, 1980-81, 1993-94

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