Game #3861
Aston Villa
0-0-1, 0 PTS

Saturday, 17 August 1985
21st
Last 5: ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
GK Nigel Spink | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Tony Dorigo | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Allan Evans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
CB Brendan Ormsby | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB Gary Williams | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Colin Gibson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐ |
M Paul Birch | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Steve McMahon | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Mark Walters | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
F Gary Shaw | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Andy Gray | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Graham Turner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1984-1986

Substitutes
๐ | M Darren Bradley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | for M Colin Gibson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 35' |
Unused Substitutes
None
Yellow Cards (Warnings, Cautions, Bookings)
None
Red Cards (Ordered from Field of Play, Dismissals, Sendings Off)
None
Trophy Record
European Cup / Champions League: ๐
League Champions: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
FA Cup Winners: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
League Cup Winners: ๐๐๐
Last Trophy: 1981-82
Matchday Squad
Unavailable
Not recorded
Team News
Graham Turner handed the returning Andy Gray his first start.
Team Stats
Starting XI Average Age
| 24.73 |
Oldest Player |
CF Andy Gray | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | 29.73 |
Youngest Player |
LB Tony Dorigo | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 19.64 |
Debut Appearances
None
Final Appearances
None
On This Day
Villa open the season with a ๐ฅ heavy defeat under Graham Turner ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ as old boy John Gidman ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ does the damage, creating two goals for United in their stroll.
Graham Turnerโs ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Villa had now ๐ฅ lost three successive games conceding six, and scoring once.
Further entrenching the bizarre and destructive transfer policy under Chairman Herbert Doug Eliis, centre forward Andy Gray ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ makes his first appearance for Villa aged 29 since rejoining from Everton in July 1985 for a fee of ยฃ150,000.
Gray ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ had been Villaโs leading scorer under Ellisโ previous tenure as Chairman before being sold in 1979.
Confusingly Grayโs ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ age, 29, was past that of a series of league and European Cup winning players who had been sold by Ellis (Ken McNaught ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, 28, David Geddis ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ, 25, Tony Morley ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ, 29, Eamonn Deacy ๐ฎ๐ช 25, and Gordon Cowans ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ, 26) and was considerably older than Villaโs now departed leading scorer for the previous season Rideout ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ (20).
As a result, despite claims to the contrary, there was little evidence that it was the restructuring of an โageingโ squad that caused those players to be sold under Herbert Douglas Ellisโ chairmanship.
Forward Gary Shaw ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ makes his first appearance for Villa since February 1984 due to injury.
Centre back Brendan Ormsby ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ makes his ๐ 125th appearance in a Villa shirt (121 Starts)
Starting XI
Substitutes
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 2
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 3
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 4
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 5
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ

Lost
0-4
๐ฅ 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
Scorer(s) | None
Assist(s) | None
Match Timeline
๐ | 35' Sub off, Colin Gibson, Sub on, Darren Bradley
๐ | HT Manchester United 0-0 Aston Villa
๐ฅ
| 47โ Goal, 0-1, (Manchester United) , Norman Whiteside
๐ฅ
| 49โ Goal, 0-2, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
๐ฅ
| 74โ Goal, 0-3, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
๐ฅ
| 82' Goal, 0-4, (Manchester United), Jesper Olsen
๐ | FT Manchester United 4-0 Aston Villa
Season | 1985-86 |
Matchday | #1 |
League Match | #1 |
Manager Game | #47 |
Saturday, 17 August 1985
Match Record
Game Record
Manager: Graham Turner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: Colin Seel | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Carlisle, 1974-1985
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: ๐จ 0-0
FT Result: ๐ฅ Lost
FT Score: ๐ฅ 0-4
Last 5: ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
Officials
Referee: Colin Seel | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Carlisle, 1974-1985
Previous 5 vs. United: ๐ฅ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ
Head to Head
Total ๐ 119 | ๐ฉ 42 | ๐จ 23 | ๐ฅ 54 | โฝ 191 | ๐ฅ
227 |
League ๐ 107 | ๐ฉ 39 | ๐จ 22 | ๐ฅ 46 | โฝ 176 | ๐ฅ
199 |
FA Cup ๐ 8 | ๐ฉ 2 | ๐จ 0 | ๐ฅ 6 | โฝ 11 | ๐ฅ
20 |
League Cup ๐ 3 | ๐ฉ 1 | ๐จ 1 | ๐ฅ 1 | โฝ 4 | ๐ฅ
4 |
Other ๐ 1 | ๐ฉ 0 | ๐จ 0 | ๐ฅ 1 | โฝ 0 | ๐ฅ
4 |
Home ๐ 57 | ๐ฉ 30 | ๐จ 12 | ๐ฅ 15 | โฝ 127 | ๐ฅ
91 |
Away ๐ 61 | ๐ฉ 11 | ๐จ 11 | ๐ฅ 39 | โฝ 62 | ๐ฅ
135 |
Neutral ๐ 1 | ๐ฉ 1 | ๐จ 0 | ๐ฅ 0 | โฝ 2 | ๐ฅ
1 |
Match Stats
Not recorded
Graham Turner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1984-1986
๐ 47 | ๐ฉ | 17 ๐จ | 11 ๐ฅ 19 | 1.32
Villa Career Form:
Mid Table
What they Said
Division One
Manchester United
Old Trafford
Attendance: 49,743
GK Gary Bailey | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB John Gidman (ex) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Paul McGrath | ๐ฎ๐ช |
CB Graeme Hogg | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
LB Arthur Albiston | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
M Remi Moses | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐ |
M Jesper Olsen | ๐ฉ๐ฐ | โฝ |
M Bryan Robson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Norman Whiteside | ๐ฌ๐ง | โฝ |
CF Frank Stapleton | ๐ฎ๐ช |
CF Mark Hughes | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ | โฝ | โฝ |
Ron Atkinson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | (ft)
Substitutes
๐ | M Remi Moses | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | (RB Mike Duxbury | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |)
Unused Substitutes
None
Yellow Cards (Warnings, Cautions, Bookings)
None
Red Cards (Ordered from Field of Play, Dismissals, Sendings Off)
None
Opposition Trophy Record
European Cup / Champions League: ๐
League Champions: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
FA Cup Winners: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
League Cup Winners: โ
Last Trophy: 1984-85
Opposition Matchday Squad
Opposition Unavailable
Not Recorded
League Table
1985-86
Playing Squad



























