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Game #3861

Saturday, 17 August 1985

Attendance: 49,743

Lost

Division One

21st

Manchester United

Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥

Old Trafford

Villa open the season with a heavy defeat under Graham Turner as old boy John Gidman does the damage, creating two goals for United in their stroll.

Manchester United

4-0

Aston Villa

Assist(s) | None

KEY MAN

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MATCH TIMELINE

🔁 | 35' Sub off, Colin Gibson, Sub on, Darren Bradley
🕒 | HT Manchester United 0-0 Aston Villa
🥅 | 47’ Goal, 0-1, (Manchester United) , Norman Whiteside
🥅 | 49’ Goal, 0-2, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
🥅 | 74’ Goal, 0-3, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
🥅 | 82' Goal, 0-4, (Manchester United), Jesper Olsen
🕒 | FT Manchester United 4-0 Aston Villa

ON THIS DAY

Graham Turner’s Villa had now lost three successive games conceding six, and scoring once.

Further entrenching the bizarre and destructive transfer policy under Chairman Herbert Doug Eliis, centre forward Andy Gray made his first appearance for Villa aged 29 since rejoining from Everton in July 1985 for a fee of £150,000.

Gray had been Villa’s leading scorer under Ellis’ previous tenure as Chairman before being sold in 1979.

Gray’s age, 29, was past that of a series of league and European Cup winning players who had been sold by Ellis (Ken McNaught, 28, David Geddis, 25, Tony Morley, 29, Eamonn Deacy, 25, and Gordon Cowans, 26) and was considerably older than Villa’s now departed leading scorer for the previous season Rideout (20).

As a result, despite claims to the contrary, there was little evidence that it was the restructuring of an “ageing” squad that caused those players to be sold under Herbert Douglas Ellis’ chairmanship.

Aston Villa

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1981-82

Manchester United

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆
League Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: 1984-85

FIXTURE HISTORY

Manchester United

Previous 5 vs. United: 🟥 🟩 🟥 🟩 🟥

FIXTURE DETAILS

Season | 1985-86 |
Matchday | #1 |
League Match | #1 |
Manager Game | #47 |
Saturday, 17 August 1985

MATCH SUMMARY

Manager: Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: Colin Seel | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Carlisle, 1973-1987
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: 🟨 0-0
FT Result: 🟥 Lost
FT Score: 🟥 0-4
Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Colin Seel | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Carlisle, 1973-1987
Previous 5: 🟨
Last Match: 🟨 7 May 1983, Villa 1-1 Liverpool, Anfield.
Cards: None

CARDS

Villa

None

Manchester United

None

Colin Seel

TEAM NEWS

Graham Turner handed the returning Andy Gray his first start.

TEAM STATS

Starting XI Average Age
| 24.73 |

Oldest Player |
CF Andy Gray | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 29.73 |

Youngest Player |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 19.64 |

MANAGER

MANAGER

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Ron Atkinson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Aston Villa

GK Nigel Spink | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Allan Evans | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
CB Brendan Ormsby | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB Gary Williams | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Colin Gibson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔁 |
M Paul Birch | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Steve McMahon | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Mark Walters | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Gary Shaw | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Andy Gray | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |

Manchester United

GK Gary Bailey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB John Gidman (ex) | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Paul McGrath | 🇮🇪 |
CB Graeme Hogg | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
LB Arthur Albiston | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
M Remi Moses | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔁 |
M Jesper Olsen | 🇩🇰 | ⚽ |
M Bryan Robson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Norman Whiteside | 🇬🇧 | ⚽ |
CF Frank Stapleton | 🇮🇪 |
CF Mark Hughes | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 | ⚽ | ⚽ |

SUBSTITUTES

🔁 | M Darren Bradley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | for M Colin Gibson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 35' |

SUBSTITUTES

🔁 | M Remi Moses | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | (RB Mike Duxbury | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |)

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

None

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

None

SQUAD STATS

1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 12/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

SQUAD STATS

1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 8/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 9/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

UNAVAILABLE

Not recorded

UNAVAILABLE

Not Recorded

Player Abbreviations:

GK : Goalkeeper

LB, RB, FB : Left Back, Right Back, Full Back

CB, D : Centre Back, Defender

M, W : Midfielder. Winger

F, CF : Forward, Centre Forward

🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance

DEBUT APPEARANCES

CF Andy Gray | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |

FINAL APPEARANCES

MATCH STATS

Not recorded

TABLE

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PROGRAMME

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MATCHDAY QUOTES