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Game #3861

Aston Villa

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Saturday, 17 August 1985

21st

Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥

GK Nigel Spink | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Allan Evans | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
CB Brendan Ormsby | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB Gary Williams | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Colin Gibson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔁 |
M Paul Birch | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Steve McMahon | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Mark Walters | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Gary Shaw | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Andy Gray | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1984-1986
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Substitutes:

🔁 | M Darren Bradley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | for M Colin Gibson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 35' |

Unused Substitutes:

None

None

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1981-82

Matchday Squad:

Not recorded

Graham Turner handed the returning Andy Gray his first start.

Starting XI Average Age
| 24.73 |

Oldest Player |
CF Andy Gray | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 29.73 |

Youngest Player |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 19.64 |

  • Villa open the season with a 🟥 heavy defeat under Graham Turner 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 as old boy John Gidman 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 does the damage, creating two goals for United in their stroll.

  • Graham Turner’s 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Villa had now 🟥 lost three successive games conceding six, and scoring once. 

  • Further entrenching the bizarre and destructive transfer policy under Chairman Herbert Doug Eliis, centre forward Andy Gray 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 makes his first appearance for Villa aged 29 since rejoining from Everton in July 1985 for a fee of £150,000. 

  • Gray 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 had been Villa’s leading scorer under Ellis’ previous tenure as Chairman before being sold in 1979. 

  • Confusingly Gray’s 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 age, 29, was past that of a series of league and European Cup winning players who had been sold by Ellis (Ken McNaught 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿, 28, David Geddis 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, 25, Tony Morley 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, 29, Eamonn Deacy 🇮🇪 25, and Gordon Cowans 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, 26) and was considerably older than Villa’s now departed leading scorer for the previous season Rideout 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (20). 

  • As a result, despite claims to the contrary, there was little evidence that it was the restructuring of an “ageing” squad that caused those players to be sold under Herbert Douglas Ellis’ chairmanship.

  • Forward Gary Shaw 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 makes his first appearance for Villa since February 1984 due to injury.

  • Centre back Brendan Ormsby 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 makes his 🕒 125th appearance in a Villa shirt (121 Starts)

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Lost

0-4

🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
Scorer(s) | None

Assist(s) | None

Match Timeline:

🔁 | 35' Sub off, Colin Gibson, Sub on, Darren Bradley
🕒 | HT Manchester United 0-0 Aston Villa
🥅 | 47’ Goal, 0-1, (Manchester United) , Norman Whiteside
🥅 | 49’ Goal, 0-2, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
🥅 | 74’ Goal, 0-3, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
🥅 | 82' Goal, 0-4, (Manchester United), Jesper Olsen
🕒 | FT Manchester United 4-0 Aston Villa

Season | 1985-86 |
Matchday | #1 |
League Match | #1 |
Manager Game | #47 |
Saturday, 17 August 1985

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Manager: Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: Colin Seel | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Carlisle, 1974-1985
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: 🟨 0-0
FT Result: 🟥 Lost
FT Score: 🟥 0-4
Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥

Referee: Colin Seel | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Carlisle, 1974-1985

Previous 5 vs. United: 🟥 🟩 🟥 🟩 🟥

Total 🕒 119 | 🟩 42 | 🟨 23 | 🟥 54 | ⚽ 191 | 🥅 227 |
League 🕒 107 | 🟩 39 | 🟨 22 | 🟥 46 | ⚽ 176 | 🥅 199 |
FA Cup 🕒 8 | 🟩 2 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 6 | ⚽ 11 | 🥅 20 |
League Cup 🕒 3 | 🟩 1 | 🟨 1 | 🟥 1 | ⚽ 4 | 🥅 4 |
Other 🕒 1 | 🟩 0 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 1 | ⚽ 0 | 🥅 4 |
Home 🕒 57 | 🟩 30 | 🟨 12 | 🟥 15 | ⚽ 127 | 🥅 91 |
Away 🕒 61 | 🟩 11 | 🟨 11 | 🟥 39 | ⚽ 62 | 🥅 135 |
Neutral 🕒 1 | 🟩 1 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 0 | ⚽ 2 | 🥅 1 |

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Not recorded

Debut Appearances:

None

Final Appearances:

None

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1984-1986

🕒 47 | 🟩 | 17 🟨 | 11 🟥 19 | 1.32

Villa Career Form:

Mid Table

Referee:

VAR (from 2021)

GK Nigel Spink | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

94

93*

🔥

0

0

🟩

40

🟨

20

🟥

34

31

🥅

123

LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

36

31

🔥

0

1

🟩

12

🟨

9

🟥

15

CB Allan Evans | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
🕒

336

333

🔥

46

9

🟩

144

🟨

85

🟥

107

CB Brendan Ormsby | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

125

121

🔥

5

3

🟩

52

🟨

33

🟥

40

LB Gary Williams | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

239

234

🔥

0

10

🟩

99

🟨

55

🟥

85

M Colin Gibson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

229

224

🔥

15

17

🟩

107

🟨

46

🟥

76

M Paul Birch | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

57

55

🔥

5

4

🟩

23

🟨

12

🟥

22

M Steve McMahon | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

89

89

🔥

7

5

🟩

35

🟨

20

🟥

34

W Mark Walters | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

117

103

🔥

24

20

🟩

50

🟨

21

🟥

46

F Gary Shaw | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

193

190

🔥

76

22

🟩

94

🟨

40

🟥

59

CF Andy Gray | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
🕒

142

141

🔥

69

20

🟩

59

🟨

41

🟥

42

🕒

🔁

🔥

GK Sub

🟩

🟨

🟥

🥅

M Darren Bradley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
🕒

3

🔁

2

🔥

0

0

Sub 1

🟩

1

🟨

1

🟥

1

🕒

🔁

🔥

Sub 2

🟩

🟨

🟥

🕒

🔁

🔥

Sub 3

🟩

🟨

🟥

🕒

🔁

🔥

Sub 4

🟩

🟨

🟥

🕒

🔁

🔥

Sub 5

🟩

🟨

🟥

Division One

Manchester United

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Old Trafford

Attendance: 49,743

GK Gary Bailey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB John Gidman (ex) | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Paul McGrath | 🇮🇪 |
CB Graeme Hogg | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
LB Arthur Albiston | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
M Remi Moses | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔁 |
M Jesper Olsen | 🇩🇰 | ⚽ |
M Bryan Robson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Norman Whiteside | 🇬🇧 | ⚽ |
CF Frank Stapleton | 🇮🇪 |
CF Mark Hughes | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 | ⚽ | ⚽ |

Ron Atkinson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | (ft)
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Substitutes:

🔁 | M Remi Moses | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | (RB Mike Duxbury | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |)

Unused Substitutes:

None

None

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆
League Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: 1984-85

Matchday Squad:

Not Recorded

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