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Game #3861

Aston Villa

Saturday, 17 August 1985

Lost

21st

Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥

Division One

Attendance: 49,743

Manchester United

Old Trafford

Manchester United

4-0

Aston Villa

Assist(s) | None

MATCH SUMMARY

Villa open the season with a heavy defeat under Graham Turner as old boy John Gidman does the damage, creating two goals for United in their stroll.

KEY MAN

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Saturday, 17 August 1985

🔁 | 35' Sub off, Colin Gibson, Sub on, Darren Bradley
🕒 | HT Manchester United 0-0 Aston Villa
🥅 | 47’ Goal, 0-1, (Manchester United) , Norman Whiteside
🥅 | 49’ Goal, 0-2, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
🥅 | 74’ Goal, 0-3, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
🥅 | 82' Goal, 0-4, (Manchester United), Jesper Olsen
🕒 | FT Manchester United 4-0 Aston Villa

ON THIS DAY

Graham Turner’s Villa had now lost three successive games conceding six, and scoring once.

Further entrenching the bizarre and destructive transfer policy under Chairman Herbert Doug Eliis, centre forward Andy Gray made his first appearance for Villa aged 29 since rejoining from Everton in July 1985 for a fee of £150,000.

Gray had been Villa’s leading scorer under Ellis’ previous tenure as Chairman before being sold in 1979.

Gray’s age, 29, was past that of a series of league and European Cup winning players who had been sold by Ellis (Ken McNaught, 28, David Geddis, 25, Tony Morley, 29, Eamonn Deacy, 25, and Gordon Cowans, 26) and was considerably older than Villa’s now departed leading scorer for the previous season Rideout (20).

As a result, despite claims to the contrary, there was little evidence that it was the restructuring of an “ageing” squad that caused those players to be sold under Herbert Douglas Ellis’ chairmanship.

Aston Villa

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1981-82

Manchester United

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆
League Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: 1984-85

FIXTURE HISTORY

Manchester United

Previous 5 vs. United: 🟥 🟩 🟥 🟩 🟥

FIXTURE DETAILS

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Season | 1985-86 |
Matchday | #1 |
League Match | #1 |
Manager Game | #47 |
Saturday, 17 August 1985

MATCH SUMMARY

Manager: Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: Colin Seel | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Carlisle, 1973-1987
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: 🟨 0-0
FT Result: 🟥 Lost
FT Score: 🟥 0-4
Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥

MANAGERIAL RECORD

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

GAMES | WINS | DRAWS | LOSSES | POINTS PER GAME

🕒 47 | 🟩 | 17 🟨 | 11 🟥 19 | 1.32

Villa Career Form:

Mid Table

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Colin Seel | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Carlisle, 1973-1987
Previous 5: 🟨
Last Match: 🟨 7 May 1983, Villa 1-1 Liverpool, Anfield.
Cards: None

Colin Seel

CARDS

Villa

None

Manchester United

None

TEAM NEWS

Graham Turner handed the returning Andy Gray his first start.

TEAM STATS

Starting XI Average Age
| 24.73 |

Oldest Player |
CF Andy Gray | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 29.73 |

Youngest Player |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 19.64 |

MANAGER

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

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Aston Villa

GK Nigel Spink | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Allan Evans | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
CB Brendan Ormsby | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB Gary Williams | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Colin Gibson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔁 |
M Paul Birch | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Steve McMahon | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Mark Walters | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Gary Shaw | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Andy Gray | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |

MANAGER

Ron Atkinson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

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Manchester United

GK Gary Bailey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB John Gidman (ex) | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Paul McGrath | 🇮🇪 |
CB Graeme Hogg | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
LB Arthur Albiston | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
M Remi Moses | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔁 |
M Jesper Olsen | 🇩🇰 | ⚽ |
M Bryan Robson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Norman Whiteside | 🇬🇧 | ⚽ |
CF Frank Stapleton | 🇮🇪 |
CF Mark Hughes | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 | ⚽ | ⚽ |

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Not necessarily indicative of the actual matchday formation

SUBSTITUTES

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🔁 | M Darren Bradley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | for M Colin Gibson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 35' |

SUBSTITUTES

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🔁 | M Remi Moses | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | (RB Mike Duxbury | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |)

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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None

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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None

SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 12/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 8/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 9/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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UNAVAILABLE

Not recorded

UNAVAILABLE

Not Recorded

Player Positions:

GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half


M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

Match Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

DEBUT APPEARANCES

🟢 CF Andy Gray | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |

FINAL APPEARANCES

MATCH STATS

Not recorded

LEAGUE TABLE

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MATCHDAY PROGRAMME

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MATCHDAY QUOTES

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