Game #3867
Aston Villa
2-3-2, 9 PTS

Saturday, 7 September 1985
13th (-1)
Last 5: ๐ฅ ๐จ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐จ
GK Nigel Spink | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐จ |
RB Gary Williams | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Allan Evans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
CB Brendan Ormsby | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Tony Dorigo | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐จ |
M Paul Birch | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Darren Bradley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐ |
M Steve Hodge | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Tony Daley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Mark Walters | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Andy Gray | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Graham Turner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1984-1986

Substitutes
๐ | M Ray Walker | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | for M Darren Bradley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 46' |
Unused Substitutes
None
Yellow Cards (Warnings, Cautions, Bookings)
๐จ Nigel Spink, complaining about a Hopkins tackle on Bradley that left the midfield player limping (2)
๐จ Tony Dorigo (3)
Red Cards (Ordered from Field of Play, Dismissals, Sendings Off)
None
Trophy Record
European Cup / Champions League: ๐
League Champions: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
FA Cup Winners: ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
League Cup Winners: ๐๐๐
Last Trophy: 1981-82
Matchday Squad
Goalkeepers
GK Nigel Spink | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Defenders
CB Allan Evans | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
CB Brendan Ormsby | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Full Backs
RB Gary Williams | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Tony Dorigo | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Midfielders
M Paul Birch | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Darren Bradley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Steve Hodge | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Ray Walker | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Wingers
W Tony Daley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Mark Walters | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Forwards
CF Andy Gray | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Unavailable
Not recorded
Team News
Graham Turner names an unchanged line up for the first time this season.
Team Stats
Starting XI Average Age
| 23.63 |
Oldest Player |
CF Andy Gray | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | 29.79 |
Youngest Player |
W Tony Daley | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 17.90 |
Debut Appearances
None
Final Appearances
None

Drew
0-0
๐จ 7 Sep 1985, Villa 0-0 Birmingham, St Andrews'
Scorer(s) | None
Assist(s) | None
Match Timeline
๐ | HT Birmingham City 0-0 Aston Villa
๐ | 46' Sub off, Darren Bradley, Sub on, Ray Walker
๐ | FT Birmingham City 0-0 Aston Villa
๐จ | Booking, Nigel Spink, complaining about a Hopkins tackle on Bradley that left the midfield player limping
๐จ | Booking, Tony Dorigo
Season | 1985-86 |
Matchday | #7 |
League Match | #7 |
Manager Game | #53 |
Saturday, 7 September 1985
Match Record
Game Record
Manager: Graham Turner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: Norman Wilson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Lancaster, 1983-1985
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: ๐จ 0-0
FT Result: ๐จ Drew
FT Score: ๐จ 0-0
Last 5: ๐ฅ ๐จ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐จ
Officials
Referee: Norman Wilson | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Lancaster, 1983-1985
Linesmen: L. Loosemore; F. R. Martin
Reserve Official: H. Underwood
Previous 5 vs. Birmingham: ๐ฉ ๐ฅ ๐ฉ ๐ฉ ๐ฅ
Head to Head
Total ๐ 98 | ๐ฉ 40 | ๐จ 27 | ๐ฅ 31 | โฝ 154 | ๐ฅ
131 |
League ๐ 93 | ๐ฉ 38 | ๐จ 25 | ๐ฅ 30 | โฝ 148 | ๐ฅ
128 |
FA Cup ๐ 3 | ๐ฉ 2 | ๐จ 1 | ๐ฅ 0 | โฝ 5 | ๐ฅ
0 |
League Cup ๐ 2 | ๐ฉ 0 | ๐จ 1 | ๐ฅ 1 | โฝ 1 | ๐ฅ
3 |
Home ๐ 48 | ๐ฉ 24 | ๐จ 14 | ๐ฅ 10 | โฝ 83 | ๐ฅ
52 |
Away ๐ 50 | ๐ฉ 16 | ๐จ 13 | ๐ฅ 21 | โฝ 71 | ๐ฅ
79 |
Match Stats
Not recorded
Graham Turner | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1984-1986
๐ 53 | ๐ฉ | 19 ๐จ | 14 ๐ฅ 20 | 1.34
Villa Career Form:
Mid Table

Division One
Birmingham City
St Andrew's
Attendance: 24,971
GK David Seaman | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Julian Dicks | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CB Ken Armstrong | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
D Brian Roberts | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
D Billy Wright | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB Mark Jones (ex) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Martin Kuhl | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Robert Hopkins (ex) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Dave Geddis (ex) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Wayne Clarke | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Andy Kennedy | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Ron Saunders | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | (ex)
Substitutes
No Substitutions Made
Unused Substitutes
LB Nicky Platnauer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Yellow Cards (Warnings, Cautions, Bookings)
None
Red Cards (Ordered from Field of Play, Dismissals, Sendings Off)
None
Opposition Trophy Record
European Cup / Champions League: โ
League Champions: โ
FA Cup Winners: โ
League Cup Winners: ๐
Last Trophy: 1962-63
Opposition Matchday Squad
Goalkeepers
GK David Seaman | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Defenders
CB Ken Armstrong | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
D Brian Roberts | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
D Billy Wright | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Full Backs
LB Julian Dicks | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB Mark Jones (ex) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Nicky Platnauer | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Midfielders
M Martin Kuhl | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Robert Hopkins (ex) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Forwards
CF Dave Geddis (ex) | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Wayne Clarke | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Andy Kennedy | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
Opposition Unavailable
Not Recorded

Starting XI
Substitutes
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 2
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 3
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 4
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
None
๐
๐
โฝ
๐ฅ
Sub 5
๐ฉ
๐จ
๐ฅ
Match Media
On This Day
Graham Turnerโs Villa play a second successive game against a neighbouring team but can't repeat their win at Albion as they fail to score for the third time in seven League matches.
Yet the game is remembered for the headlines that encapsulate the entirely lopsided relationship between Villa and their near neighbours Birmingham City.
A relationship of unequals was 100 years and counting at this point but no less virciferous than over the previous century.
Although passions were equally held on both sides, no-one, but no-one, would ever judge a Villa player on a single fixture against Birmingham. Yet the 'dream' was to beat Villa.
As an aside, the 'Blues' packed their team with ex Villa players as usual.
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