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Aston Villa

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1-2-2, 4 PTS

Saturday, 8 September 1979

1979-80

17th (-3)

Lost

0-3

Manchester United

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3-2-0, 8 PTS

Division One

Villa Park

Attendance: 34,859

๐ŸŸฅ 8 Sep 1979, Villa 0-3 United, Villa Park

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Scorer(s) | None

Assist(s) | None

Fixture List

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๐ŸŸจ 18 Aug 1979, Villa 1-1 Bolton, Burnden

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 22 Aug 1979, Villa 2-1 Brighton, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 25 Aug 1979, Villa 0-2 Bristol City, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 28 Aug 1979, Villa 2-0 Colchester, Layer Road

League Cup

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๐ŸŸจ 1 Sep 1979, Villa 1-1 Everton, Goodison

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 5 Sep 1979, Villa 0-2 Colchester, Villa Park

League Cup

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๐ŸŸฅ 8 Sep 1979, Villa 0-3 United, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 15 Sep 1979, Villa 0-2 Palace, Selhurst

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 22 Sep 1979, Villa 0-0 Arsenal, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 25 Sep 1979, Villa 0-0 Everton, Villa Park

League Cup

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๐ŸŸจ 29 Sep 1979, Villa 0-0 Boro, Ayresome

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 6 Oct 1979, Villa 3-0 Southampton, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 9 Oct 1979, Villa 1-4 Everton, Goodison

League Cup

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๐ŸŸจ 13 Oct 1979, Villa 0-0 Albion, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 20 Oct 1979, Villa 3-1 Derby, Baseball Ground

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 27 Oct 1979, Villa 1-1 Wolves, Molineux

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 3 Nov 1979, Villa 3-1 Bolton, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 10 Nov 1979, Villa 0-0 Ipswich, Portman Road

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 17 Nov 1979, Villa 2-1 Stoke, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 24 Nov 1979, Villa 0-0 Leeds, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 1 Dec 1979, Villa 1-1 Norwich, Carrow Road

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 8 Dec 1979, Villa 1-3 Liverpool, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 15 Dec 1979, Villa 2-1 Spurs, White Hart Lane

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 19 Dec 1979, Villa 3-0 Coventry, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 26 Dec 1979, Villa 1-2 Forest, City Ground

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 29 Dec 1979, Villa 3-1 Bristol City, Ashton Gate

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 4 Jan 1980, Villa 2-1 Bristol Rovers, Eastville

FA Cup

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๐ŸŸฉ 12 Jan 1980, Villa 2-1 Everton, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 26 Jan 1980, Villa 1-1 Cambridge, Abbey Stadium

FA Cup

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๐ŸŸฉ 30 Jan 1980, Villa 4-1 Cambridge, Villa Park

FA Cup

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๐ŸŸฉ 2 Feb 1980, Villa 2-0 Palace, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 9 Feb 1980, Villa 1-3 Arsenal, Highbury

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 16 Feb 1980, Villa 1-1 Blackburn, Ewood

FA Cup

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๐ŸŸฉ 20 Feb 1980, Villa 1-0 Blackburn, Villa Park

FA Cup

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๐ŸŸฉ 23 Feb 1980, Villa 2-1 Albion, Hawthorns

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 27 Feb 1980, Villa 2-2 Manchester City, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 1 Mar 1980, Villa 1-0 Derby, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 3 Mar 1980, Villa 1-1 Brighton, Goldstone

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 8 Mar 1980, Villa 0-1 West Ham, Upton Park

FA Cup

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๐ŸŸฅ 10 Mar 1980, Villa 1-3 Wolves, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 15 Mar 1980, Villa 0-2 Southampton, The Dell

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 19 Mar 1980, Villa 0-2 Boro, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 22 Mar 1980, Villa 1-1 Ipswich, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 26 Mar 1980, Villa 2-0 Norwich, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 29 Mar 1980, Villa 0-2 Stoke, Victoria Ground

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 5 Apr 1980, Villa 3-2 Forest, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 7 Apr 1980, Villa 1-1 Manchester City, Maine Road

Division One

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๐ŸŸจ 19 Apr 1980, Villa 0-0 Leeds, Elland Road

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 23 Apr 1980, Villa 1-2 United, Old Trafford

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 26 Apr 1980, Villa 1-0 Spurs, Villa Park

Division One

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๐ŸŸฉ 29 Apr 1980, Villa 2-1 Coventry, Highfield Road

Division One

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๐ŸŸฅ 3 May 1980, Villa 1-4 Liverpool, Anfield

Division One

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On This Day

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On this day in Villa history

Saturday, 8 September 1979

Scroll for more โฌ‡๏ธ

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Last 5: ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸจ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ

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Ron Saunders | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1974-1982

๐Ÿ•’ 268 | ๐ŸŸฉ | 119 ๐ŸŸจ | 74 ๐ŸŸฅ 75 | 1.61

Villa Career Form:

Top 6

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Game #3550

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Match Record

Season | 1979-80 |
Matchday | #7 |
League Match | #5 |
Manager Game | #268 |
Saturday, 8 September 1979

Game Record

Manager: Ron Saunders | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Birkenhead, 1974-1982
Referee: Peter Reeves | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Leicester, 1974-1980
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: ๐ŸŸฅ 0-1
FT Result: ๐ŸŸฅ Lost
FT Score: ๐ŸŸฅ 0-3
Last 5: ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸจ ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฅ

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Head to Head

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Previous 5 vs. United: ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฉ ๐ŸŸจ ๐ŸŸจ ๐ŸŸจ

Total ๐Ÿ•’ 107 | ๐ŸŸฉ 39 | ๐ŸŸจ 20 | ๐ŸŸฅ 48 | โšฝ 174 | ๐Ÿฅ… 198 |
League ๐Ÿ•’ 95 | ๐ŸŸฉ 36 | ๐ŸŸจ 19 | ๐ŸŸฅ 40 | โšฝ 159 | ๐Ÿฅ… 170 |
FA Cup ๐Ÿ•’ 8 | ๐ŸŸฉ 2 | ๐ŸŸจ 0 | ๐ŸŸฅ 6 | โšฝ 11 | ๐Ÿฅ… 20 |
League Cup ๐Ÿ•’ 3 | ๐ŸŸฉ 1 | ๐ŸŸจ 1 | ๐ŸŸฅ 1 | โšฝ 4 | ๐Ÿฅ… 4 |
Other ๐Ÿ•’ 1 | ๐ŸŸฉ 0 | ๐ŸŸจ 0 | ๐ŸŸฅ 1 | โšฝ 0 | ๐Ÿฅ… 4 |
Home ๐Ÿ•’ 52 | ๐ŸŸฉ 28 | ๐ŸŸจ 10 | ๐ŸŸฅ 14 | โšฝ 118 | ๐Ÿฅ… 83 |
Away ๐Ÿ•’ 54 | ๐ŸŸฉ 10 | ๐ŸŸจ 10 | ๐ŸŸฅ 34 | โšฝ 54 | ๐Ÿฅ… 114 |
Neutral ๐Ÿ•’ 1 | ๐ŸŸฉ 1 | ๐ŸŸจ 0 | ๐ŸŸฅ 0 | โšฝ 2 | ๐Ÿฅ… 1 |

Trophy Cabinet

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Aston Villa

European Cup / Champions League: โŒ
League Champions: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† ๐Ÿ†
FA Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
League Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
Last Trophy: 1976-77

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Manchester United

European Cup / Champions League: ๐Ÿ†
League Champions: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
FA Cup Winners: ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†
League Cup Winners: โŒ
Last Trophy: 1976-77

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Squad News

Debut Appearances

None

Final Appearances

None

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Match Timeline

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๐Ÿฅ… | 17โ€™ Goal, 0-1, (Manchester United), Steve Coppell
๐Ÿ•’ | HT Aston Villa 0-1 Manchester United
๐Ÿฅ… | 70โ€™ Goal, 0-2, (Manchester United, pen), Micky Thomas
๐Ÿฅ… | 86โ€™ Goal, 0-3, (Manchester United), Ashley Grimes
๐Ÿ” | Sub off, Gary Shelton, Sub on, Joe Ward
๐Ÿ•’ | FT Aston Villa 0-3 Manchester United

๐ŸŸจ | Booking, Allan Evans, Unclear but assumed to be for a heavy tackle on Joe Jordan or dissent for being penalised for a heavy tackle on Joe Jordan
๐ŸŸจ | Booking, Kenny Swain, Dissent

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Officials

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Referee: Peter Reeves | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | Leicester, 1974-1980
Linesmen: E. G. Morgan (Merthyr Tydfil); W. T. Williams (Cardiff)

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Officials

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Referee Profile

VAR Profile (Post 2021)

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Officials

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Villa Bookings

๐ŸŸจ Allan Evans, Unclear but assumed to be for a heavy tackle on Joe Jordan or dissent for being penalised for a heavy tackle on Joe Jordan (6)
๐ŸŸจ Kenny Swain, Dissent (3)

Villa Sendings Off

None

Opposition Bookings

None

Opposition Sendings Off

None

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Match Stats

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Not recorded

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Line Up & Subs

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Aston Villa
Ron Saunders | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | 1974-1982

GK Jimmy Rimmer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB John Gidman | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB Kenny Swain | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐ŸŸจ |
CB Allan Evans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | ๐ŸŸจ |
CB Ken McNaught | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
M Gary Shelton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐Ÿ” |
M Gordon Cowans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Dennis Mortimer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Tony Morley | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
F John Deehan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
F Gary Shaw | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Substitutes

๐Ÿ” | F Joe Ward | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | for M Gary Shelton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Unused Substitutes

None

Manchester United
Dave Sexton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

GK Gary Bailey | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
LB Arthur Albiston | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
CB Gordon McQueen | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
CB Martin Buchan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
RB Jimmy Nicholl | ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง |
M Mickey Thomas | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ | โšฝ |
M Lou Macari | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
M Steve Coppell | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | โšฝ |
M Sammy McIlroy | ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง |
M Ray Wilkins | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
CF Joe Jordan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | ๐Ÿ” |

Substitutes

๐Ÿ” | CF Joe Jordan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | (M Ashley Grimes | ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช | โšฝ |)

Unused Substitutes

None

Team News

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Injury | 5 |
M Alex Cropley | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
F Brian Little | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB Gary Williams | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Colin Gibson | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Frank Carrodus | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Gary Shelton replaces Colin Gibson.

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Manchester United

Not Recorded

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Matchday Squads

Aston Villa

Goalkeepers
GK Jimmy Rimmer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Defenders
CB Allan Evans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
CB Ken McNaught | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |

RB John Gidman | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
RB Kenny Swain | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

M Gary Shelton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Gordon Cowans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Dennis Mortimer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
W Tony Morley | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
F John Deehan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
F Gary Shaw | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Subs:
F Joe Ward | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Manchester United

Goalkeepers
GK Gary Bailey | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |

Defenders
CB Gordon McQueen | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
CB Martin Buchan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |

Full Backs
LB Arthur Albiston | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
RB Jimmy Nicholl | ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง |

Midfielders
M Mickey Thomas | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ |
M Lou Macari | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
M Steve Coppell | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Sammy McIlroy | ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง |
M Ray Wilkins | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
M Ashley Grimes | ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช

Forwards|
CF Joe Jordan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |

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Match Media

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What they Said

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"We've got a lot of youngsters in the side and we need a couple of new signings. But we did a lot of good work and played some good football without having anything to show for it".

"At times like these it is easy to criticise and knock a side when they are struggling. We are struggling but we need encouragement not criticism."

"I do not feel I am under any pressure from above although I must have been asked that question at least 20 times today. I hope money will be made available by the board and I shall be making certain recommendations to them before long."

Ron Saunders

โ€‹A mass exodus of fans from Villa Park on Saturday well before the final whistle clearly showed the thoughts on Aston Villa's performance.

The 3-0 defeat by Manchester United, which was not totally unexpected, the departure of ยฃ1,469,000 Andy Gray and the rumours of unrest within the club were all important factors.

It is obvious that these are unhappy times and a third successive defeat did nothing to help the humour of the supports in a 34,859 crowd.

They did not have to be experts to see that all is not right. Villa's largely inexperienced side worked hard throughout, but they were nearly always second best against United's well drilled eleven.

With one or two exceptions, notably Mortimer and Cowans it was almost like watching boys playing against men.

Manager Ron Saunders said afterwards: "We've got a lot of youngsters in the side and we need a couple of new signings. But we did a lot of good work and played some good football without having anything to show for it".

"At times like these it is easy to criticise and knock a side when they are struggling. We are struggling but we need encouragement not criticism."

Saunders added "I do not feel I am under any pressure from above although I must have been asked that question at least 20 times today. I hope money will be made available by the board and I shall be making certain recommendations to them before long."

In fairness to Villa most sides might have struggled against United's composed and controlled display which extended their unbeaten run and took them into second place in the First Division.

The area where most of Villa's moves broke down was in attack. Deehan and the teenager, Shaw. the two main strikers, found it hard to keep possession. This made extra work for Mortimer and company in midfield where they were continually tested by McIlroy and Wilkins.

Everything started to go wrong for Villa after 18 minutes when Rimmer fumbled a powerful shot from Macari. Jordan, who had been subjected to some heavy tackling from Evans which earned the Villa defender a booking, could not turn it Into the net. But Coppell suddenly appeared at the far post to do the trick.

Villa defenders argued that Coppell was offside, but Leicester referee Peter Reeves refused their appeals and their later protests when McQueen and Nicholl appeared to handle in the area.

He had no hesitation in rightly awarding United a 70th minute penalty when emergency full back Swain brought down the substitute, Grimes. Thomas scored from the spot whilst Swain was booked for disagreeing with the referee.

To complete the torment Rimmer dived too late in the 86th minute to prevent Grimes' close range shot from going under his body But the goalkeeper move smartly to deny United any more goals, pulling off one magnificent save against Mcllroy.

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Saturday, 8 September 1979
Sports Argus

WOLVES SIGN GRAY

ANDY GRAY became English football's most expensive player when he signed for Wolves for ยฃ1,469,000.

โ€‹The signing was carefully stage-managed at Molineux half-an-hour before the kick-off of their game with Crystal Palace.

โ€‹Gray was taken onto the pitch by manager John Barnwell, and signed to the roars of the 30,000 crowd while surrounded by photographers and reporters.

โ€‹Barnwell said: "I must rate him very highly. He is at the right age 23, and he is coming to a club that is going forward. We have yet to see the very best of Andy."

โ€‹"I am quite happy about the player's fitness."

โ€‹Barnwell shrugged off any suggestion that Wolves could not afford the fee.

โ€‹He said: "If you can afford a Rolls Royce you should not be limited to buying Mini. The danger Is only when you can afford a Mini and go out and buy a Rolls Royce."

Aston Villa, who sold Gray to Wolves, make a massive profit on the deal. They bought him for ยฃ110,000 from Dundee United In 1973.

Gray, who had his medical this morning. said: "All I feel Is that if Mr. Barnwell is paying this much money he must know what I can do."

"I know what I can do, and now it's just a case of proving it."

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Saturday, 8 September 1979
Sports Argus

Harry says cash is for new men By PETER WHITE

โ€‹ASTON Villa chairman Harry Kartz has made it clear the money brought in from the sale of Andy Gray is available for new players.

It has been suggested that part of the ยฃ1.5 million could be used to put Villa on a sound financial basis.

But Kartz said: "We are a football club. not a finance company."

The Villa chairman added "It's up to the manager, Ron Saunders, to spend the money how best he thinks."

"If he come to me at any time with a proposition, then we will give it consideration. In fact, that has always been the case."

It seems likely that Saunders will try to buy a forward to replace Gray. Mike Channon would have fitted the bill ideally, but the former England striker now appears to be on his way from Manchester City to Southampton.

However, Mr. Kartz has made it perfectly clear that money is available to strengthen the Villa squad. so now it's up to Saunders to go out and spend.

Meanwhile, Villa face one of their sternest tests so far this season when they meet third-placed Manchester United at Villa Park this afternoon.

With Colin Gibson ruled out through injury. Kenny Swain fills the left back berth the third position he has played in this season.

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Monday, 10 September 1979
*Birmingham Daily Post*

Saunders, Villa reach crossroads
lAN WILLARS CHALLENGE TO ASTON VILLA

โ€‹Aston Villa's five-man board of directors must act now to clear up the growing uncertainty about manager Ron Saunders's future. They must decide whether they are going to back him or dismiss him.

The latest round of rumour and innuendo was brought to an embarrassing climax when ten million viewers of BBC's Match of the Day programme on Saturday night saw 48-year-old Saunders placed under the spotlight.

Commentator Barrie Davies, interviewing Saunders, said at one stage: "People are saying your future is in the balance ..." It was cutting and right to the point.

But it is not a closely guarded secret that there has been conflict between the board and the manager and that this state of affairs still appears to exist.

There is also considerable doubt about whether Saunders is going to be given all the ยฃ1.2 million he received for Scottish striker Andy Gray to start the important team rebuilding programme.

It is clear to Villa's faithful supporters that new men are desperately required if the club are to fulfil their ambitions. This is another reason why the board must speak out if only to clear the air and bring some stability back to the club.

Unlike Wolves manager John Barnwell, who received the full backing of his board to buy Gray, it appears that Saunders may well have his hands tied on whom he buys or sells.

If this is so it puts him in an untenable position. He has, arguably, been Villa's most successful manager since the war and it is worth recording that the last time they won the First Division title was 60 years ago.

Since he joined the club in June, 1974, he has helped them to win the League Cup twice, taken them from the Second Division to the First and also guided them to the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup.

Despite this handsome record he has been beset by problems under three successive chairmen Doug Ellis, Sir William Dugdale, and the current occupant, Harry Kartz. He had to fight for a long term contract last year.

The board has hitherto been most forthcoming in providing him with the cash to buy players. But it is significant that Villa's record transfer deal is still the ยฃ250,000 they paid Newcastle United for Tommy Craig In January of last year.

This is minute by today's standards and although they are hoping to pay out a similar sum for Everton fullback Mike Pejic, other big money buys are needed if the team are not to struggle.

The warning signs blaze. Villa supporters have been staying away in their thousands this season.

Poor results

The reasons are twofold poor results and a growing belief that all is not right between the manager and the board and the manager and the players.

Chairman Kartz and his fellow directors met transfer listed Gray and full-back Juhn Gidman last week without Saunders being present. Kartz denied that it was a last minute attempt to try to keep Gray and Gidman. He described the meeting as "a general chat."

What is going on Villa?

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Match Highlights

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Team Selection

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Goalkeeper

GK Jimmy Rimmer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
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Defenders

RB John Gidman | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
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RB Kenny Swain | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
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CB Allan Evans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
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CB Ken McNaught | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
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Midfielders

M Dennis Mortimer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
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M Gary Shelton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
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25

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M Gordon Cowans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
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W Tony Morley | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
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Forwards

CF John Deehan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
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F Gary Shaw | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
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F Joe Ward | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ |
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Sub 5

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1979-80

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First Team Squad

GK Jimmy Rimmer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #591 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

Hamrun Spartans ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡น Retired

CB Brendan Ormsby | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #599 |

Centre Back

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Where are they now?

Wigan Athletic ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

LB Eamonn Deacy | ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช | #609 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

Galway United ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช Died

RB Kenny Swain | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #602 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

Crewe Alexandra ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

M Alex Cropley | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #584 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

Portsmouth ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

M Des Bremner | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #606 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

Stafford Rangers ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

M Ivor Linton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #588 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

Nรคrpes Kraft Fotbollsfรถrening ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Retired

M Terry Bullivant | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #608 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

Brentford ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

F Brian Little | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #555 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

Aston Villa ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

F Joe Ward | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #603 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

St Johnstone ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ Retired

GK Nigel Spink | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #611 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

Forest Green Rovers ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

CB Ken McNaught | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #590 |

Centre Back

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Where are they now?

Sheffield United ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

LB Gary Williams | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #598 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

Bradford City ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

LB Mike Pejic | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #605 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

Aston Villa ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

M Colin Gibson | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #601 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

Walsall ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

M Gary Shelton | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #595 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

Chester City ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

M Lee Jenkins | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #597 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

FinnPa ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Retired

W Tony Morley | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #604 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

Hamrun Spartans ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡น Retired

CF David Geddis | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #607 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

Darlington FC ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

CF John Deehan | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #579 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

Barnsley ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

CB Allan Evans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #594 |

Centre Back

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Where are they now?

Darlington FC ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

CB Noel Blake | ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ฒ | #614 |

Centre Back

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Where are they now?

Exeter City ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

RB John Gidman | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #560 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

Darlington FC ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

LB Pat Heard | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #612 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

Brunei Darussalam ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ Retired

M Dennis Mortimer | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #580 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

Birmingham City ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

M Gordon Cowans | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #582 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

Burnley ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

M Robert Hopkins | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #613 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

Colchester United ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Died 2026

CF Andy Gray | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ | #578 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

Cheltenham Town ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

F Gary Shaw | ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #596 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

Ernest Borel ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ Died 2024

CF Terry Donovan | ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช | #610 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

Blackpool ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Retired

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Matchday Programme

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The Trophy Cabinet

Domestic:โ€จ
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League Champions: 1893-94, 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-00, 1909-10, 1980-81โ€จ
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FA Cup Winners: 1886-87, 1894-95, 1896-97, 1904-05, 1912-13, 1919-20, 1956-57
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League Cup Winners: 1960-61, 1974-75, 1976-77, 1993-94, 1995-96โ€จ

Europe:
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European Cup Winners: 1981-82
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European Super Cup Winners: 1982-83โ€จ

Other Domestic:โ€จ
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Second Division Champions: 1937-38, 1959-60
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Third Division Champions: 1971-72โ€จ

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Other Europe:

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Intertoto Cup Winners: 2001-02โ€จ
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Peace Cup Winners: 2009

Reserve Leagueโ€จ:
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Premier Reserve League Champions: 2003-04, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2009-10, 2011-12โ€จ
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Central League Champions: 1929-30, 1963-64, 1992-93

Reserve Cup
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Birmingham Senior Cup Winners: 1879-80, 1881-82, 1882-83, 1883-84, 1884-85, 1887-88, 1888-90, 1889-90, 1890-91, 1895-96, 1898-99, 1902-03, 1903-04, 1905-06, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1909-10, 1911-12, 1984-85, 2023-24 โ€จ
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NextGen Series Winners: 2012-13โ€จ
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Premier League Cup Winners: 2017-18

Youth League:
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u18s Premier League Champions: 2024-25
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u18s Premier League National Champions: 2024-25
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u18 Premier League Tier Two Champions 2016-17
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u18 Premier Academy League Academy Group B Champions: 2005-06, 2007-08, 2010-11
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u18 Premier Academy League National Champions 2007-08
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u17 FA Premier Academy League Champions: 1999-00, 2003-04
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Midland Youth League Champions: 1989-90, 1994-95, 1995-96

Youth Cup:
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FA Youth Cup Winners: 1971-72, 1979-80, 2001-02, 2020-21, 2024-25
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Midland Youth League Cup Winners: 1991-92, 1994-95
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Midland Youth Cup Winners: 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98
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Southern Junior Floodlit Cup: 1972-73, 1974-75, 1975-76, 1978-79, 1979-80, 1980-81, 1993-94

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