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Legacy
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Bert Kingaby
Player #188

Winger
W Bert Kingaby | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | #188 |
Herbert Charles Lawrence James Kingaby
1 August 1880
London, Greater London
England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ
Transfer Notes
Transfer In
Transfer In:
1905-06
Orient ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ
ยฃ400
March 1906
25
George Ramsay
Transfer Out
Transfer Out:
1906-07
Fulham ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ
Free
July 1906
25
George Ramsay ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ
Previous Clubs
Bert Kingaby
Previous Clubs:
West Hampstead FC
Clapton Orient
Subsequent Clubs
Bert Kingaby
Subsequent Clubs:
Fulham
Retired
Progression
Bert Kingaby
n/a
Appearance Record
Bert Kingaby
Winger
W Bert Kingaby | ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ |
Aston Villa 1906 |
Football League First Division |
๐ 4 | โฝ 0 | ๐ฅ - | #188 |
Played Under
Bert Kingaby
George Ramsay ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ
Honours
Bert Kingaby
Played for the Villa
Debut Appearance
Bert Kingaby
Debut Squad:
1905-06
14 March 1906
George Ramsay ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ
Debut:
1905-06
14 March 1906
George Ramsay ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ
25
Loans Out
Bert Kingaby
Loans Out:
None
Final Appearance
Bert Kingaby
Final Appearance:
1905-06
13 April 1906
George Ramsay ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ
25
Final Squad:
1905-06
13 April 1906
George Ramsay ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ
Villa Career
Bert Kingaby
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Competition Record
Bert Kingaby
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Season Record
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1905-06
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1905-06
First Division
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1905-06
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1905-06
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1905-06
n/a
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Sendings Off
Bert Kingaby
International Career
Bert Kingaby
Full International Record
Villa International Record
Career Notes
Bert Kingaby
Biography
Bert Kingaby
Player #188 for Aston Villa, Herbert Charles Lawrence James Kingaby, known as Bert Kingaby and nicknamed Rabbit played as a winger for the club in the outside right position.
Bert played for Villa on 4 occasions during the 1905-06 season.
Bert was born in London on 1st August 1880 and made his debut appearance as a 25 year old on the 10th March 1906.
Villa had signed Bert from Clapton Orient for ยฃ400 earlier in the month and he was to subsequently move on to Fulham in July 1906 after making his final appearance on 13th April 1906.
Bertโs contribution to football extended to off the pitch controversy and he could be reasonably described as the maker of the modern transfer system.
Having been signed from Clapton Orient for ยฃ400, Villa placed Kingaby on a contract set to the maximum wage of ยฃ4 week.
Villa however soon suffered buyerโs remorse when it was clear Kingaby was not up to the standards required from a first team player.
Villa decided their best move was to cut their losses and released the player back to Orient for a discounted fee of ยฃ200. Orient however werenโt interested in the deal. Villa then found no other clubs out there were willing takers either.
Rather than admit an expensive mistake in the transfer market, Villa upped the ante considerably.
The Villa hierarchy deemed it appropriate to stop paying Bertโs wage on the basis that he was not delivering under his contracted terms.
Whether there was a performance clause in the contract is highly unlikely. Villa however doubled down and not only stopped Kingabyโs income but also placed him on the retained list, and in so doing meant he could not move to another league club even if there was an amenable destination.
This fit of pique simply served to make the whole situation significantly worse for all parties.
Eventually Fulham, then a Southern League club, playing outside of the existing League structure, took Kingaby on and it appeared this most unedifying chapter had come to a close.
That however was wishful thinking as an opportunistic Orient - with a fresh ยฃ400 still in their pocket from the original transfer - decided to get greedy and re-signed Kingaby for the 1910-11 season.
What they hadnโt bargained for however was that Villa still held the playerโs registration and he remained on their retained list.
Quite how Orient hadnโt twigged that when Kingaby rocked up in non-league is a mystery but the end result was painful for them.
A tribunal ordered that Orient owed Villa a transfer fee for Kingaby and Orient were ordered to pay ยฃ350 for his services.
Admittedly they were still โupโ ยฃ50 but theyโd gambled and lost not once but twice by rejecting the ยฃ200 offer and re-signing the player on the sly.
It still wasnโt over however and more controversy was to follow as Kingaby attempted to sue Villa for preventing him from playing by holding him on the retained list - which in itself was fair, although withholding payment was not.
Kingabyโs case was ultimately dismissed due to what could euphemistically be described as โirregularitiesโ and the Playerโs Union, who funded the case, faced ruin, as did Kingabyโs career in football.
Kingaby, Villa, Orient - An episode from which no party emerged with any credit.
Bert played under the George Ramsay led Management Committee.
Bert passed away in London in 1957 aged 77.
1957, Aged 77








