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Game #3295

Aston Villa

5-4-2, 14 PTS

Saturday, 5 October 1974

Won

4th (+1)

Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟨 🟩 🟩

Division Two

Attendance: 15,574

Oldham Athletic

Boundary Park

4-2-3, 10 PTS

Oldham Athletic

1-2

Aston Villa

Assists(s) | Keith Leonard | 88' |

MATCH SUMMARY

Villa record their first away League win of the campaign thanks to Ray Graydon’s 11th goal of the season despite having John Gidman sent off and a furore erupting between Ron Saunders and Oldham’s Alan Groves. Despite the distractions Villa climb back to fourth in the second division table four points off leaders Manchester United after 11 games.

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MATCH TIMELINE

Saturday, 5 October 1974

🟢 | 1’ Debut, Tony Betts, Alan Little
🕒 | HT Oldham Athletic 0-0 Aston Villa
🟨 | 47’ Booking, John Gidman
🥅 | 50’ Goal, 0-1, (Oldham Athletic), Colin Garwood
⚽ | 54’ Goal, 1-1, Own Goal, Keith Hicks
🟥 | 68’ Sending off, John Gidman
⚽ | 88’ Goal, 2-1, Ray Graydon, Assist by Keith Leonard
🕒 | FT Oldham Athletic 1-2 Aston Villa

🟨 | Booking, Alan Little, Foul

ON THIS DAY

Ron Saunders' Villa make it five wins, four draws and two defeats in his first eleven Division Two games as Villa boss as they record their first League away win of the season. Meanwhile, Alan Little made his Villa debut aged 19 after joining from school football in June 1971.

Aston Villa

League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆
Last Trophy: 1960-61

Oldham Athletic

League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: ❌
League Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: ❌

FIXTURE HISTORY

Oldham Athletic

Previous 5 vs. Oldham: 🟥 🟩 🟩 🟩 🟩

FIXTURE DETAILS

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Season | 1974-75 |
Matchday | #13 |
League Match | #11 |
Manager Game | #13 |
Saturday, 5 October 1974

MATCH SUMMARY

Manager: Ron Saunders | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Birkenhead, 1974-1982
Referee: Dave Wallace | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Crewe, 1964-1976 🆘
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: 🟨 0-0
FT Result: 🟩 Won
FT Score: 🟩 2-1
Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟨 🟩 🟩

MANAGERIAL RECORD

Ron Saunders | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

GAMES | WINS | DRAWS | LOSSES | POINTS PER GAME

🕒 13 | 🟩 | 6 🟨 | 5 🟥 2 | 1.77

Villa Career Form:

Top 6

ALL THE MATCHES LED BY:

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Dave Wallace | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Crewe, 1964-1976 🆘
🆘 Repeatedly conned by Oldham's Groves that led to Gidman's sending off and an unseemly spat that lasted for weeks.
Previous 5:
Last Match:
Cards: 🟥 🟨 🟨 🟨

ALL THE MATCHES REFEREED BY:

CARDS

Villa

🟥 🟨 🟨 🟨

Oldham Athletic

None

TEAM NEWS

Ron Saunders hands Alan Little and Tony Betts their debuts in place of John Robson and Chico Hamilton.

TEAM STATS

Starting XI Average Age
| 25.59 |

Oldest Player |
LB Charlie Aitken | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 32.45 |

Youngest Player |
M Alan Little | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 19.68 |

MANAGER

Ron Saunders | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

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Aston Villa

GK Jim Cumbes | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB John Gidman | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🟨 | 🟥 |
CB Chris Nicholl | 🇬🇧 |
CB Ian Ross | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
LB Charlie Aitken | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
M Leighton Phillips | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 |
M Alan Little | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🟢 | 🟨 |
W Ray Graydon | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |
W Frank Carrodus | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Keith Leonard | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔥 |
F Tony Betts | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

MANAGER

Jimmy Frizzell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |

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Oldham Athletic

GK Chris Ogden | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB Ian Wood | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Keith Hicks | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Paul Edwards | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Maurice Whittle | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Ronnie Blair | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Ian Robins | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Graham Bell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F George Jones | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Alan Groves | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
F Colin Garwood | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |

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Not necessarily indicative of the actual matchday formation

SUBSTITUTES

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No Substitutions Made

SUBSTITUTES

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No Substitutions Made

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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F Alun Evans | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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W George McVitie | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 12/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 12/12

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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UNAVAILABLE

Injury | 6 |
M Pat McMahon | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | Ankle
F Bobby Campbell | 🇬🇧 |
F Sammy Morgan | 🇬🇧 | Stomach muscle
FB John Robson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Illness
M Chico Hamilton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Illness
F Brian Little | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

UNAVAILABLE

Not Recorded

Player Positions:

GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half


M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

Match Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

DEBUT APPEARANCES

🟢 M Alan Little | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

FINAL APPEARANCES

MATCH STATS

Not recorded

LEAGUE TABLE

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MATCHDAY PROGRAMME

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MATCHDAY QUOTES

“It’s scandalous what he’s saying. It’s a load of rubbish. He (Gidman) was diving in all the time.

“He took me for a mug. If he’d laid off, played It cool he would have done much better.

“I refute what Saunders is saying [that Grove play acted to get Gidman sent off]. The player kept coming In on me and he was bound to catch me.

“I love defenders coming in like that as I can slip them but then they catch me. But I can take stick like that all day.

“What was the other fella [Alan Little] booked for? He was diving in too.”

Alan Groves.



“This was another wonderful example of one professional getting another sent off.

“We didn’t know how true that was [warnings of Groves’ tendency to play act].

“Groves intimidated the ref with his high diving.”

Ron Saunders.



“That’s a dreadful thing to say.

“I’ve only had one player, Ritson of Bolton, sent off against me and that was 2 1/2 years ago. And I took the trouble to speak up in his defence.”

Alan Groves.

*Birmingham Daily Post*
Monday, 7 October 1974

John Gidman’s sending-off at Oldham was a direct result of play-acting by Alan Groves, claims Aston Villa manager Ron Saunders.

Gidman was dismissed in the 68th minute for a foul on Groves after having his name taken for a tackle on the same player 21 minutes earlier.

Villa’s Allan Little, who took Gidman’s place In defence, was also booked for a foul on Groves and the Oldham winger answered Saunders’s criticisms after the match by saying:

“It’s scandalous what he’s saying. It’s a load of rubbish. He (Gidman) was diving in all the time.

“He took me for a mug. If he’d laid off, played It cool. he would have done much better.

“I refute what Saunders is saying. The player kept coming In on me and he was bound to catch me. I love defenders coming in like that as I can slip them but then they catch me. But I can take stick like that all day.

“What was the other fella booked for? He was diving in too.”

Groves’s manager, Jimmy Frizzell, supported the argument:

“Groves is covered with stud marks and bruises.”

But Saunders was adamant:

“This was another wonderful example of one professional getting another sent off.”

He confided that he had been warned that Groves “won” free kicks all over the place “but we didn’t know how true that was “

Referee Davld Wallace (Crewe) said that Gidman was sent off for persistent fouling, but Saunders says “Groves intimidated the ref with his high diving”

“That’s a dreadful thing to say.” countered Groves “I’ve only had one player, Ritson of Bolton, sent off against me and that was 2 1/2 years ago. And I took the trouble to speak up in his defence.”

Gidman had been given a worrying afternoon by Grooves, a former Shrewsbury player who is 26 this month. His overlapping down the flanks had been restricted by the need to stifle Groves’s tricky footwork and speed.

A free kick conceded by Gidman for a tackle on Groves in the first half put the Villa defence under strain and Groves beat both Gidman and lan Ross later only for goalkeeper Jimmy Cumbes to make one of a series of fine saves.

Gidman’s booking came early in the second half and he and the rest of the Villa defence, were put under heavy pressure as Groves made the game throb.

These details would appear to make Mr. Wallace’s decision justifiable, but there still a nagging doubt for it seemed that the referee intended to book Gidman, forgetting the earlier caution.

He approached Gidman with his book out, an unusual method for a referee about to send a man off and spent a few minutes talking to Gidman before he walked off.

Villa played with more fervour with ten men and Ray Graydon’a 11th goal of the season, scored one and a half minutes from time, brought their first away League win.

On their attacking - and exciting - first half display alone, Oldham should not have lost their unbeaten home record but after taking the lead through Colin Garwood, Keith Hicks conceded an own goal equaliser.

Image © THE BRITISH LIBRARY BOARD. With thanks to Reach PLC. Digitised by Findmypast Newspaper Archive Limited. All rights reserved. Source: British Newspaper Archive (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk)

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