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Game #158

Aston Villa

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Saturday, 12 November 1892

WLWWW

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Won

5-4

🟩 12 Nov 1892, Villa 5-4 Forest, New Town Ground

Division One

Nottingham Forest

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New Town Grounds

Attendance: 10,000

On This Day
Villa's fourth win in five.

GK Bill Dunning |
FB Arthur Stokes |
CB Jimmy Cowan |
FB Walter Evans |
M George Campbell |
M Fred Burton |
W Charlie Athersmith |
F Dennis Hodgetts |
F Jack Devey |
F Albert Brown |
F Charlie Hare |

George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926
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Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Unused Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Yellow Cards (Warnings, Cautions, Bookings)

None

Red Cards (Ordered from Field of Play, Dismissals, Sendings Off)

None

Trophy Record

League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: 🏆
Last Trophy: 1886–87

Matchday Squad

Unavailable

Not recorded

Team News

Villa make one change from the victory over Derby with Arthur Stokes returning in place of Peter Dowds.

Team Stats

Starting XI Average Age
| 25.28 |

Oldest Player |
F Albert Brown | 30.87 |

Youngest Player |
W Charlie Athersmith | 20.52 |

Debut Appearances

Final Appearances

Starting XI
GK Bill Dunning | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
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Scorer(s) | Charlie Athersmith | Dennis Hodgetts | Charlie Athersmith | Jack Devey | Charlie Athersmith |

Assist(s) | None

Match Timeline

[Exact timings not recorded]
10’ Goal, 0-1, (Nottingham Forest)
Goal, 1-1, Charlie Athersmith
Goal, 1-2, Dennis Hodgetts
Goal, 1-3, Charlie Athersmith
Goal, 2-3, (Nottingham Forest)
Goal, 3-3, (Nottingham Forest)
HT Nottingham Forest 3-3 Aston Villa
65’ Goal, 3-4, (Nottingham Forest)
Goal, 4-4, Jack Devey
Goal, 5-4, Charlie Athersmith
FT Nottingham Forest 4-5 Aston Villa

Season | 1892-93 |
Matchday | #14 |
League Match | #14 |
Manager Game | #132 |
Saturday, 12 November 1892

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Match Record
Game Record

Manager | George Ramsay led Management Committee |
FT Score | 5-4 |
FT Result | Won |
Last 5 Games | WLWWW |

Officials

Previous 5 vs. Forest: 🟩 🟩 🟩

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Head to Head

Total 🕒 4 | 🟩 W4 (100% ) | 🟨 D0 | 🇺(100% ) | 🟥 L0 (0% ) | ⚽ 12 | 🥅 6 | GD 6

Match Stats

Not recorded

George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

🕒 132 | 🟩 67 🟨 17 🟥 48 | 1.65

Villa Career Form:

Top 6

What they Said

"The second portion was stoutly contested, either side pressing in turn. The visitors, however, held the upper hand, and putting two other points to their opponents one, finally retired the winners five goals to four."

NOTTINGHAMSHIRE FOREST v. ASTON VILLA.
HEAVY SCORING AND DEFEAT OF THE REDS.

Played on the New Town Grounds, Nottingham on Saturday afternoon, in the presence of 9,000 spectators. Rain fell in the morning, and the playing part of the arena was somewhat heavy and holding. Both teams were representative, and the locals, who won the toss, elected to defend the town goal.

At the outset of play Forest pressed, and gave the Villa custodian a good deal of work. Higgins and M'Callum being especially prominent, whilst M'Cracken, at half back, sent in some brilliant shots.

Ten minutes having elapsed, M'Callum scored from a cross by M’Innes.

A little later Athersmith, on the Villa right, hit one of the Forest uprights, and the ball rebounded through, amid applause from the Birmingham contingent of visitors.

The same player added two other points in quick succession, and soon after the locals registered second goal out of a scrimmage, Dunning, the Villa goalkeeper being temporarily disabled.

M'Callum obtained a third for the Reds, but being off-side it was disallowed.

Just, however, on eve of the interval he contributed a definite point, and the rivals crossed over with score of three goals each.

The second portion was stoutly contested, either side pressing in turn. The visitors, however, held the upper hand, and putting two other points to their opponents one, finally retired the winners five goals to four.
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*Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser*
Monday 14 November 1892

Notts Forest v. Aston Villa.— On the Town Ground, Nottingham. About 8,000 spectators were present. Forest pressed first, and scored through after 10 minutes had elapsed. Then followed some exciting work, the Villa showing brilliant form, and Athersmith and Hodgetts both beat the Forest custodian. Playing with rare dash, the Villa got still further ahead, but M'Callum made two brilliant goals, and at half time the score, in a splendid match, was three goals each.

The Forest forwards pressed vigorously during the earlier portion of the second half, M'lnnes and M'Cracken being especially prominent, and a cleverly worked-for point was made M'Callum, which put the Forest ahead 20 minutes through the second half.

Maintaining the pressure, the Forest kept the Villans penned in, and scored an offside goal, but then a remarkable change came over the game. Aston Villa played up grandly, and Devey scored with a shot which Brown was powerless to save. This brought the scores even, but Athersmith, adding another point, put the Villa again first, and though the Forest were constantly attacking towards the finish, they were beaten.

Harry Radford | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
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Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Unused Substitutes

No Substitutions permitted in period

Yellow Cards (Warnings, Cautions, Bookings)

None

Red Cards (Ordered from Field of Play, Dismissals, Sendings Off)

None

Opposition Trophy Record

League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: ❌

Opposition Matchday Squad

Opposition Unavailable

Not Recorded

League Table
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1892-93
Playing Squad
GK Bill Dunning | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #82 |

Goalkeeper

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Where are they now?

GK Bob Roberts | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #90 |

Goalkeeper

🟩 23 Nov 2025 Villa 2-1 Leeds, Elland Road IG2.jpg

Where are they now?

D Gershom Cox | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #44 |

Defender

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Where are they now?

CB Jimmy Cowan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #56 |

Centre Back

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Where are they now?

FB Arthur Stokes | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #85 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

LB Jack Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #84 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

FB John Baird | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #76 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

FB Walter Evans | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 | #67 |

Full Back

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Where are they now?

M Fred Burton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #89 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M George Campbell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #72 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M Harry Devey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #45 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M James Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #71 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M Peter Dowds | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #81 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

M Tom Clarkson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #55 |

Midfielder

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Where are they now?

W Albert Woolley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #93 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

W Charlie Athersmith | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #73 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

W Lewis Campbell | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #62 |

Winger

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Where are they now?

F Albert A Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #32 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F Bob Chatt | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #94 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F Charlie Hare | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #78 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F David Skea | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #91 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F Dennis Hodgetts | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #38 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

CF George A Davis | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #87 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

CF Jack Devey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #74 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F Jim Paton | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #86 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

CF Jimmy Logan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #88 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

CF Jock Fleming | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | #83 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

F William Devey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #92 |

Forward

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Where are they now?

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Youth Cup:
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